I pick.........
1968.
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
I pick.........
1968.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
That wasn't liberalism.Originally Posted by HoreTore
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
Not economical liberalism, no, but it sure was social liberalism.
Free sex for everyone!!! Sounds kinda liberal to me....
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
It involved social democrats, anarchists, communists, democratic socialists, and so on. It wasn't a liberal thing, and I doubt very many of the participants voted for liberal parties.
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
Oh but liberalism in the early 19th century has very little to do with (modern liberal) political parties which are a terrible practical joke compared to the freethinkers they claim intellectual heritage of. Liberalism is about breaking down certain barriers in the form of artificial restrictions imposed on you at birth and sometimes also by social convention. It is by extension also about empowering individuals to question and participate in their government; and about the purpose & mandate of institutions.
And some true 19th century context socialists would make you blush at how (especially morally) conservative their ideas really were. Socialism has at that time *nothing* to do with Marxism/Leninism and the like. In 19th century context, socialism is mostly about a certain disappointment with the state of the world and a search for an ideal politeia which typically involves a small scale supposedly self-sustaining commune adhering to a set of principles (ranging from absolute equality to a religious dogma to combinations of that). Essentially not at all unlike Amish communities.
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Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
The British Digger movement had a lot going for it. Don't overlook that.
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Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
With respect, and due humility, 2001.
That was the year "Modern Western Liberalism" was shaken to its roots. Roots found lacking in an acknowledgement of a triumph of individual, personal rights, unalienable, to rights 'granted' from outside the body politik.
1776, 1789, 1848, all mighty years in the struggle, '01 trumps 'em (in my opinion) because of the the challenge and response.
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Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
.........As I said, social liberalism.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
...which is relatively unrelated to true classical liberalism.
Re: More Important to Modern Western Liberalism:1776, 1789, 1848
Times change.
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