The U.S. Health Care Debate

[Louis VI the Fat]

Clinton's advice to the Dems in the Senate is tactically sound. They should simply put the House bill on the floor, unaltered, and vote it in. Then there would be no conference or further debate, just a signature by Obama and one very large camel's nose stuffed into the tent.

Fortunately, they'll never do it and the Senate might let it die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKH6Gw1TC8&NR=1

[jabarto]

Just a heads up, the Senate is going to vote on the healthcare plan after this weekend. Here's an overiview of what it will entail - http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/novemb...d-bill-in-bold

As you probably gathered from the link, I'm hoping to god it will fail. My big issue of forcing people to buy crappy insurance with no controls on premiums is still unresolved.

[rory_20_uk]

The health system is utterly rubbish!
It's not worked for years! It costs a fortune with poor outcomes...



You spend as puch public money as some countries, then add twice again!



Oh, and the speed its getting worse is accelerating...

[jabarto]

It keeps getting worse...

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/12..._.html?showall

Moderate Sens. Landrieu, Olympia Snowe and Blanche Lincoln have an amendment to...remove states' ability to opt-out from a nationwide private insurance plan.

The next time I see someone clamoring for the ability to by insurance across state lines, I'm going to slap them. Not only will it acomplish absolutely nothing - if not make the situation worse - it's a big slap in the face to state's rights, somehting I thought the right was really big on.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKH6Gw1TC8&NR=1

Merci beaucoup! Tres drole! Je pense tres vrai aussi, mais je suis un "Grand Ancien Partie" person.

[jabarto]

Welp, the public option is officially dead.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-08-20-16-43

To be fair, it probably would have been absolute crap even had it made it.