The Thirty Years War [Concluded]

[Double A]

In support of Poland, the Ottoman Empire declares war on Lithuania.

[Beskar]

If he wanted to join the war in support of Switzerland then he should have said that. Currently I take it as a separate war.

My mistake then. I was under the impression Spainish did it on behalf of the Swiss, like it is mentioned in the thread earlier.

[Greyblades]

Meh either way I'm going to thrash the french and make them surrender the lands they took.

[Centurion1]

interesting to see how france conducts a two front war one with a major power.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

interesting to see how france conducts a two front war one with a major power.

I know how but if I tell you now it would be cheating.. right?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so is the phase over? just wondering

[Centurion1]

i think so cdf.

Nah ibn i like surprises. Hows the write up looking?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It's almost done. The write up should be posted tomorrow evening(I hope).

[Centurion1]

Gah, ima kill myself in suspense......

Take your time though.

hey a little note here i think from now on if you want to declare war on someone you should do it with at least 10-12 hours left in the turn. Otherwise people may not be online at the time and have no way to prepare. Im going to do it from now on out of courtesy but i would recommend it for everyone else as well.

[Greyblades]

Wait what if we want to surprise attack someone? It might not be common for the period but a surprise attack has allways been an effective tactic.

[Csargo]

Wait what if we want to surprise attack someone? It might not be common for the period but a surprise attack has allways been an effective tactic.

Never-mind

[White_eyes:D]

I kinda want to drop this.....missing those two rounds is going to hurt.....I think someone should replace me

[Beskar]

Though you dropping out will hurt more.

Stay in!

[Centurion1]

NO!!!!!!!! dont drop two rounds is noting. dont worry about it.

[Beskar]

Think of it this way, you still have plenty of room to expand. Look at me! :P

[Double A]

Maybe Ibn could give you some kind of compensation?

[Beskar]

I would have been fine, but he actually made me weaker, because I traded with everyone, so I had 25% of everyones income (except Spain and Transylvania) hence why he made that only had have two very close partners to do that with.

I would have become the Richest or one of them.

[Centurion1]

bah will still be making a positive income beskar.... your not the smallest nation on the map.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I kinda want to drop this.....missing those two rounds is going to hurt.....I think someone should replace me

I hope you reconsider this.
But if you don't then I'll find someone to replace you.
Russia is too important to just turn into white or it's lands to be handed to other players.

I would have been fine, but he actually made me weaker, because I traded with everyone, so I had 25% of everyones income (except Spain and Transylvania) hence why he made that only had have two very close partners to do that with.

I would have become the Richest or one of them.

Btw, no one mentioned in their orders for this turn with whom they want to share 25% from their trade.
Trade Agreement - land trade.
Trade Treaty - 25% from their trade, whit maximum of 2 players

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, uh.... Spain and the Ottomans.

Just because they're huge and I think that's awesome.

(Size queen!)

[Csargo]

I hope you reconsider this.
But if you don't then I'll find someone to replace you.
Russia is too important to just turn into white or it's lands to be handed to other players.



Btw, no one mentioned in their orders for this turn with whom they want to share 25% from their trade.
Trade Agreement - land trade.
Trade Treaty - 25% from their trade, whit maximum of 2 players

Whoever I'd get the most income from

[Beskar]

I know a replacement for Russia, if worse comes for the worse. However, White_Eyes should stay.

[Double A]

Whoever I'd get the most income from

Me and either Spain or Russia.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Me and either Spain or Russia.

You and either Spain or Russia make a lot of money through taxes but trade is another thing.

[Beskar]

How big of a difference is there between me and Ottomen then?

[Centurion1]

thats cause you got no friends double a.

[Double A]

Yes, believe that I have no friends.

[Beskar]

Double A is in a secret alliance with Austria. How it works, if that they appear they are war with eachother, then they both spring an attack on other parties, and they pretend they will help that party against the other.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm your friend mighty Ottoman empire <3

[Ibn-Khaldun]

-Year 1619-
from July to December

“All quiet on the eastern front“ became a common phrase in Vienna by the end of December. Although Austrian forces besieged Turkish forts in Balkan and Hungary they made no moves to actually attack those fortifications. Austrian attempt to go around those forts also failed when Turks managed to build another two forts on the border and after that the war slowed down. However, more interesting news came from Prague. Frederick V, King of Bohemia, died. Since the only legitimate heir was the Emperor Ferdinand II all Bohemian lands became his property once again. This angered the people in Bohemia because just a year ago they had received independence from the Habsburg rule.

In France, people were not as carefree as the people in Vienna. Their army in Germany was destroyed by the Swiss and Spanish entered Southern provinces of Milan after wiping out a small French mercenary force there. The most painful loss for the French was the death of general de Caumont by the Swiss hands, though. At first things might look bad for Louis XIII but the look can be deceitful. France had several forts on the border and which bought them some time to raise another army to replace those they lost. Although two of them, Chateau Subotan and SpainSmells(Louis XIII must be going crazy?), were under siege they still had a chance to win this war. The help had came from the most unexpected place. Namely, Swiss had given it's lands in Southern Germany to Saxony and thus the Swiss had reduced their territory size greatly. A strong French army might try to invade Switzerland while the Swiss were occupied with the siege of the French fort. Also, Swedish king Gustav II Adolf, honoring his alliance with Louis XIII, declared war on Spain who now have to fight in three fronts and could possibly lose it's holdings in Netherlands.

While the French, Spanish and Swiss fought their war in Western Europe,their neighbors increased their military. Whether they felt themselves threatened or not,it was a fact that most nations had armies ten or twenty times larger than they were just couple of years ago. Will this lead to another war only time will tell.

Though the wars were the main subject for discussion in taverns across the Europe, people also heard the news how Portugal fought terrible „battles“ against desert sands and sun in Algeria. They also could heard how Transylvania increased it's territory by cutting previously Ottoman controlled Wallachia in two and conquering small states in Moldavia.

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