Quote Originally Posted by Cecil XIX View Post
That's more specific, but it's not a source. I assume you're talking about elections to the House, in which case the Office of the Clerk's records only go back to 1920.

I am talking about presidential elections

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As to your other examples, Shay's rebellion led to reform in the shape of the US Constitution, while the Whiskey Rebellion and the Alien & Sedition Acts undermined the Federalist government and led to Jefferson, Madison and Monroe of the Democratic-Republicans winning the next six presidential elections. After Jefferson's election, the new government repealed the Whiskey Tax and one of the Alien & Sedition Acts, two of the others having expired less than a month since Jefferson's election and the last, the Alien Enemies Act is still in effect today because it is not a bad law.

They were underminded because they were exactly what we were fighting against. The fact that one of the 5 most impoptant founding fathers would fight a war and then turn right around and smash the same ideals is tantamount to how worried these men were about losing there power.

What all these cases prove is that the American system at the time actually worked. These three incidents led to significant reform of the government, both with the creation of the US Constitution and the destruction of the Federalist Party. In all three cases amnesties and pardons were issued, and in the fourteen year period over which they occurred only two people were executed.
That's all well and good. I'm not saying the American system didn't work just that it wasn't the strike for enlightenment ideals we think it is.

I am actually happy we deconstructed over time but that doesn't make it any more right

Contrast this to when the French "stuck to their guns" in their "orgy of freedom", and excuted nearly 10,000 times as many people in the space of eleven months, the first example of the totalitarianism that Europe would become (in)famous for in the 20th century.
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The French overeached and that is to be noted, however the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen is so much more important.

The US was an upstart nation with few people and in despreate need of national identity.

France had hundereds of years of history, power, and many more people.


A man whom uses sources in the backroom. Now I truly have seen it all.