Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
An intersting concept?
What might the results have been. Possibly a city state like Venice etc.,
Could a crumbled state have lasted? the intersting point is that constantinople was the seat of the Greek church, so might it have ended up like the vatican?
What effects would this have had on the spread of Islam and on Greece as a whole?
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
well, I can answer the last question:Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
1-wouldn't have made that much of a difference. the Ottomans already had a considerable part of the Balkans in their hands by 1450, and in fact the capital at the time iirc was in Edirne (Adrianopolis).
what the fall of Constantinople did more than anything was add great prestiege to the Ottoman rulers.
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
It kinda was at that point, the Byzantines had become more culturally inward and didn't really bother where borders overstretched anymore, been taken apart piecemeal.
Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
If Byzantium never fall to the Turks, that city will play a role as "Buffer State" between the Turks and Hungarians, so, because the Turkish skirmishes and raids in Hungarian Borders are eventually fewer, the Hungarians will then become strong and start to push back... (Imagine M2TW campaign in my head) then starting to sent their Hungarian Nobles and Magyar Horse Archers to doom their neighbours, and finally become the "western mongol empire" on their own.....
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
What about the Balkans? Constantinople was an enclave in the middle of Ottoman hegemony.
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
The Balkans, will either revolt, or be captured by the Turks, well, the Fall of Constantinople
could'nt be stopped (except if the earlier Ottoman campaigns could be halted, and the Crusader lands at
Palestine would'nt be taken, it would'nt happen)
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
You don't get it, in 1543, the Byzantine Empire was reduced to only Constantinople. The Ottomans already took the lands East and West of them, Bulgaria and Anatolia.
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
So, if only Constantinople, we can only stop the fall of the Empire almost 160 years before(1291)
when the Crusader states fallen, and been taken by the Muslims, the Simple truth is:
THE FALL OF CONSTANTINOPLE CAN'T BE PREVENTED!!!!!!!
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Re: What if Constantinople had never fallen to the Turks?
That's not quite right. Most of Morea (Peloponnese) was still under Byzantine control in 1453. Some of Constantine XI's advisers urged him to flee to that province to escape the fall of the city and continue the fight, but he refused.
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