Shooting At Ft.Hood

[Husar]

Life happens, not ones life is easy. That is not an excuse...not at all...not for anything.

And that you're apparently antisocial enough to just look over having no friends, only enemies, is not going to stop others from going insane and shooting everybody. So what?
You're saying people should just adapt to the harassment, which effectively makes you an apologizer for those who harass others, how exactly is that better than being an apologizer for Hassan?
Do you really think driving people into suicide, mass murder, depression and other things is just fine and the weaklings should just grow a brain? If I told you to grow a brain now, could you do it? If I told you to stop harassing other people, would that be easier or harder?

[Vuk]

And that you're apparently antisocial enough to just look over having no friends, only enemies, is not going to stop others from going insane and shooting everybody. So what?
You're saying people should just adapt to the harassment, which effectively makes you an apologizer for those who harass others, how exactly is that better than being an apologizer for Hassan?
Do you really think driving people into suicide, mass murder, depression and other things is just fine and the weaklings should just grow a brain? If I told you to grow a brain now, could you do it? If I told you to stop harassing other people, would that be easier or harder?

Antisocial? lmao. First of all, he did have friends. The reason he did not have more was his fault, not someone else's.

driving people into suicide, mass murder, depression and other things

lmaoX2 Are you kidding me? You are just throwing the blame off of him and onto others. Many, many others underwent the same and worse than what he did and did not do that. The difference is that THEY were not murderers and terrorists. I never said that harrassing some was a good thing (and I love how you keep taking his family's word on that over all the words of the soldiers who denied it), but it does not even compare to being a murderer or terrorist. Why do you try so desperately to defend a murderous terrorist BTW? After a while doesn't PC get a little low?

[Husar]

Antisocial? lmao. First of all, he did have friends. The reason he did not have more was his fault, not someone else's.

Sure, it's always the fault of the guy who is being harassed, that's exactly why the guy who was murdered also only has himself to blame for his behaviour, same thing really.

lmaoX2 Are you kidding me? You are just throwing the blame off of him and onto others. Many, many others underwent the same and worse than what he did and did not do that. The difference is that THEY were not murderers and terrorists.

Well, you're also throwing all the blame off the harassers, many, many others have been killed for their harassment, yet these people didn't learn a thing, it's survival of the fittest out there and Hasan survived, go figure... The point about terrorism has been addressed by HoreTore already.

I never said that harrassing some was a good thing (and I love how you keep taking his family's word on that over all the words of the soldiers who denied it)

Yeeees, I'm sure those noble soldiers would be the first to admit that they harassed him...

but it does not even compare to being a murderer or terrorist. Why do you try so desperately to defend a murderous terrorist BTW? After a while doesn't PC get a little low?

Yes, it does not compare, destroying a soul is obviously far worse, so bad that the destroyed soul might go on a rampage. At least, being the good soldiers they were, they'll all go to heaven or whatever nice place you believe in. You know, not everybody is like you and disregards what others say, for some people words can hit really deep and hard, be very hurtful, like a bullet. He just gave some of it back with real physical bullets because he couldn't win the mental shootout. Cause and consequence, you can stand under a waterfall and whine that it makes you wet and that it is a murderous terrorist waterfall but that won't stop it from making you wet until you leave it alone and go away. Or to paraphrase Einstein, everything is relative. Walk into a lion's den and you suffer the consequences, expecting it to behave like a rabbit won't help, you end up dead anyway. Those people harassed the wrong guy and paid dearly for it, that's life, deal with it.

[Fragony]

You know, not everybody is like you and disregards what others say, for some people words can hit really deep and hard, be very hurtful, like a bullet.

I really have no patience for this. You see a bullet also hits the people surrounding the victim, his friends, his family, I have a little bit more sympathy for their distress. It's a very ego-centrist approach you are taking, you feel helpless so it's right everybody must suffer? Maybe you just can't take a joke. I know you mean well and that it isn't really your point, but that's a lot of understanding wasted on what is a cold blooded murderer.

[Husar]

You know, not everybody is like you and disregards what others say, for some people words can hit really deep and hard, be very hurtful, like a bullet.

I really have no patience for this. You see a bullet also hits the people surrounding the victim, his friends, his family, I have a little bit more sympathy for their distress. It's a very ego-centrist approach you are taking, you feel helpless so it's right everybody must suffer? Maybe you just can't take a joke. I know you mean well and that it isn't really your point, but that's a lot of understanding wasted on what is a cold blooded murderer.

I was completely overreacting, on purpose. I can tell you that when you want to kill someone you do not take the hurting of their family etc. into account because you are so concentrated on the hate etc. By your example every kill a soldier makes would hit the civilians as well though, so he would essentially just have killed people who are like him?!
It's not about being unable to take a joke, it's about not being able to take hundreds or thousands of "jokes", if anyone snaps from just one misunderstanding, then yes, they're nuts.
Having fun on the expense of other people over a long time is also rather self-centered, don't you think? and one of the consequences of this might just be that the other person goes on a rampage. What I'm saying is you should grab the issue at the root, not just pick the obvious guy to blame for everything and explain the rest away by calling him sick or a weakling, mental abuse is very often completely underestimated. And I do recognize that it may never have happened but then as I said, the perpetrators would hardly admit to it anyway, much easier to blame everything on the guy noone likes anyway.