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    Default Re: Evil Americans Still Ruin the World for Petrodollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Not entirely unreasonable, no. Still, it isn't safe to presume. Since you joined two years after I did it is possible you missed some of my earlier posts on the issue.
    Fair enough, you probably did mention something before I joined.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    He isn't in the same province, and is over 700 kilometers away. Without being disrespectful to him, I don't think that simple proximity gives him any more of an understanding of life in Alberta, especially since he doesn't necessarily directly benefit from the sands (being in Saskatchewan)
    Still, a Canadian is more likely to be better informed about the situation than a Brit and a probable German (Unless of course, you are well informed), particularly as Meth will be most aware as to the effects on First Nation peoples.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Written by the same Brit who wrote the OP article, right? And with even less facts.
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    http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009...%80%A6-canada/

    Those accursed facts, actually existing and all.

    Most of his argument amounts to peer pressure and nothing more.
    Huh? I don't quite understand, as I can't find any examples of that in the article.

    It is just a leftist enviro pretending his fringe ideas are shared by a significant amount of people.
    Cool, I'm on the fringe
    Regardless, Climate Change denial is much more of a fringe movement than whatever George Monbiot says.
    Indeed. The Globe and Mail may well be one of the best papers in Canada, and indeed I read it regularly, but that doesn't make their opinion sections and guest pieces any more rational than anyone else's.
    True. But then, I would trust the opinion column in, say, the Daily Telegraph more than I do in the Sun, even though I read neither. There's a correlation between the respectability of the paper and that of the people who comment.

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    Default Re: Evil Americans Still Ruin the World for Petrodollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Still, a Canadian is more likely to be better informed about the situation than a Brit and a probable German (Unless of course, you are well informed), particularly as Meth will be most aware as to the effects on First Nation peoples.
    I didn't see you bowing down to quid's opinion in the switzerland thread :p


    The original article posted was terrible. A bunch of hyperbolic statements and things like "chemicals are released into the streams" without mentioning quantity. A good article would put everything into perspective with other industries, have solid numbers meaningful numbers, etc. There is no frame of reference provided for the numbers that he did state, so they are useless.

    I learned nothing from the article other than the fact that some people are very upset with the oil extraction in alberta.

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