No more alts?

[Azathoth]

agreed.
if you are banned, there was a reason to it. going around that ban with an alt is, IMO, quite disgusting.

So if someone created an elixir of resurrection, you would want it destroyed because if people die, there is a reason to it?

[Beefy187]

So if someone created an elixir of resurrection, you would want it destroyed because if people die, there is a reason to it?

I see where you coming from, but I would have to agree with pever, Husar and Hooah on this. Whats the point of punishment if your not going to get punished?

[Aemilius Paulus]

Lol, getting banned is a 'punishment'?? My, my, I feel sooo bad. An Internet forum blocks me from posting (but not reading) for two days. What a gruelling torture. What a tragedy.

Grow up people...

The only true punishment here is the symbolic meaning of a ban. The implication that a member has poor manners and judgement. Then there is the shame of being publicly castigated. I can find 101 ways to get around a ban if I wished, but that is not the point. Punishments have little to do with their physical nature, as long as the intent is carried out.

Anyways, that's some mighty interesting ideas people here have about punishment...



Take perma-bans for example: many banned individuals come back. Mods seem to only mind when the returned person causes more bedlam. Even if the mods did actively seek out those alts, registering on a different computer, under different e-mail should do it. Especially when the browsing is carried out from a different IP address (change yours/ cover it under a proxy). So, what is the point to perma-bans? Well, mainly the fact that the old account is gone, with all the friends, posts, seniority, background, etc. One can create a new account, but it will not be the same.

[Aemilius Paulus]

On the other hand, I should stop wasting my time on the forums... I suppose I will stick to the EB Tavern.

[Husar]

Lol, getting banned is a 'punishment'?? My, my, I feel sooo bad. An Internet forum blocks me from posting (but not reading) for two days. What a gruelling torture. What a tragedy.

Grow up people...

Well, I haven't been banned yet, who's the one who needs to grow up now?
A real man accepts his punishment and waits it out, only kids try to get around it somehow to do what they want.
Besides, if you don't care about it, why did you create alt accounts to circumvent it?

I can find 101 ways to get around a ban if I wished, but that is not the point.

I'd like to get the list.

[a completely inoffensive name]

agreed.
if you are banned, there was a reason to it. going around that ban with an alt is, IMO, quite disgusting.

Well, I haven't been banned yet, who's the one who needs to grow up now?
A real man accepts his punishment and waits it out, only kids try to get around it somehow to do what they want.
Besides, if you don't care about it, why did you create alt accounts to circumvent it?

This is an internet forum for a video game series in case people have forgotten. Everyone calm down and remember the internet is totally serious business.

[Husar]

This is an internet forum for a video game series in case people have forgotten.

And the people who frequent it like it because of it's strict posting rules that make it a relatively friendly place, in case you have forgotten.

Everyone calm down and remember the internet is totally serious business.

Absolutely, I doubt Amazon, Google and other E-business companies would say the internet is just for fun.

[Pannonian]

This is an internet forum for a video game series in case people have forgotten. Everyone calm down and remember the internet is totally serious business.

/b/ retort, and as usual, without knowledge of the internet's background. The internet began, as oldtimers would know, as a military network designed for extreme robustness that would continue to function even in the event of a nuclear attack. One of the earliest internet forums, usenet, was a predominantly academic forum network. The worldwide web was designed as a way to rationalise the many disparate pages on the internet. While I post-date the dawn of the modern developmemts, I have spoken with people who remember the days before them, so I'm aware of the internet's history as a serious technological advancement, and not just the vehicle for /b/tards to spout their rubbish. Hell, the Org itself pre-dates 4chan.

[pevergreen]

Ignore them and they go away Pann, such is the way of trolls.

[Sevis]

For instance, I invited 12 alts to Dropbox to get the +3 gigs of uploading space. I registered all the accounts to twelve of my Uni library's computers and to 12 disposable e-mail addresses. But do not worry, the computers there save no data after I log off, not unless you stick it in a special personal folder.

Even if the mods did actively seek out those alts, registering on a different computer, under different e-mail should do it. Especially when the browsing is carried out from a different IP address (change yours/ cover it under a proxy).

You seem to rather misunderstand the technical side of it. What computer you register on is of no importance - you could have registered them all from the same uni computer. Similarly, the computers could keep verbose logs of all hat was happening, and Dropbox staff would know no more than they do now.
Where you register your account is another thing that is rarely kept - however, all browsing would have to be done from a new IP, if you wanted to pretend you are a new user. This could cause several problems (especially for 56kers, whom this forum seems very friendly to - not surprising once you see the name), as not everyone can switch or keep IP at will.

On the matter itself, a ban is a ban and I don't see why evading them should be allowed. An old user who has since that time matured, and wants to start from a clean slate is fine, seeing as he may truly act quite different, but a short-term ban has, imho, far more effect on behaviour when it is enforced.

[Beefy187]

The point of banning is to prevent you from breaking rules any further, and in the case of temp banned it can also give you chance to think about the wrong action you took and telling your self that you'll never make the same mistake again.

Now going around that means, you don't think your infraction or punishment was the right call thus spitting on the face of the moderators, and spitting on the Org rules.

Only decent reason of creating a alt account I can think of is to anonymously seek advice on private matters... and if the matter is that private and important, it should be better to ask a professional.

So basically, I don't see any decent reason to have a alt account. Its also bad because someone may want to use your alts user name.

[Mithrandir]

What it comes down to is this:

We want the Org to be a friendly, positive, constructive online forum.
If people disrupt this flow, we give them several, lots of actually, lots of chances to improve their behaviour to fit in with what this place is supposed to be. If the individual choses not to fit in, this is not a place for them. To encourage people to either fit in or just leave seeing how this is not their place, we've got limited resources at our disposal.

We hope people pick up our subtle and not so subtle hints...


All of this to improve this forum and keep it fun for the majority of members who signed up, just for that purpose, because this is a friendly, constructive forum.

So, please stop being so childish, fighting everything, the big bad moderators, the rules, the police, the world. Grow up for christs sake and leave if you feel you need a place which does like your little tricks.

bye bye.

[Megas Methuselah]

So, please stop being so childish, fighting everything, the big bad moderators, the rules, the police, the world. Grow up for christs sake and leave if you feel you need a place which does like your little tricks.

Actually, if you bothered visiting the backroom at all, you might notice the high school drop-out cops aren't the good guys we imagine they are. I have a right to protest against them.

And as for "rules," there are plenty, plenty, plenty of unjust laws in the world. Watch what you post, mane.

[Aemilius Paulus]

You seem to rather misunderstand the technical side of it. What computer you register on is of no importance - you could have registered them all from the same uni computer. Similarly, the computers could keep verbose logs of all hat was happening, and Dropbox staff would know no more than they do now.

Eh? Is it me, or does it seem like you are the one who misunderstood somethign here? Hehe, try it yourself if you do not believe me. Dropbox checks from which computer you register. Oh yes. By register, I mean make a Dropbox account, download the Dropbox software and link your computer to it. Dropbox keeps track of computers added to it.

But just for s and giggles, I tried registering from the same computer. Guess what happened. It said my registration was invalid and not eligible for the referral bonus, as it was done from the same computer. Whether you use a proxy or not makes no difference.The Dropbox team is not stupid - they knew people would take advantage of their system in a negative manner. So they created the safeguard.

Where you register your account is another thing that is rarely kept - however, all browsing would have to be done from a new IP, if you wanted to pretend you are a new user. This could cause several problems (especially for 56kers, whom this forum seems very friendly to - not surprising once you see the name), as not everyone can switch or keep IP at will.

Well yeah, that is for .Org. But I never tried creating foolproof alts in here, as I saw no reason for it.

So, please stop being so childish, fighting everything, the big bad moderators, the rules, the police, the world. Grow up for christs sake and leave if you feel you need a place which does like your little tricks.

Wait, you are not addressing me, are you? Fighting everything ? LOL

[Sevis]

Eh? Is it me, or does it seem like you are the one who misunderstood somethign here? Hehe, try it yourself if you do not believe me. Dropbox checks from which computer you register. Oh yes. By register, I mean make a Dropbox account, download the Dropbox software and link your computer to it. Dropbox keeps track of computers added to it.

But just for s and giggles, I tried registering from the same computer. Guess what happened. It said my registration was invalid and not eligible for the referral bonus, as it was done from the same computer. Whether you use a proxy or not makes no difference.The Dropbox team is not stupid - they knew people would take advantage of their system in a negative manner. So they created the safeguard.

First time I've heard of Dropbox, let me see... Ah, it's a service, which does indeed explain it. My apologies - what I said about not storing local files being irrelevant is false. Just out of curiosity - is the registration through a webform or a client?

EDIT: Reread your post. The Dropbox team cannot directly control the computers it is being installed on, except through hardware monitoring at install-time. More likely is that the service or installer monitor if it has already been installed (not hard to do). Thus your point about the computers not saving any information stands, but is irrelevant in the case of a forum (unless it uses highly intrusive cookies).

[Mithrandir]

Wait, you are not addressing me, are you? Fighting everything ? LOL

The fact that you've ignored the rest of this post says enough.

[Beskar]

Lol, getting banned is a 'punishment'?? My, my, I feel sooo bad. An Internet forum blocks me from posting (but not reading) for two days. What a gruelling torture. What a tragedy.

Grow up people...

The only true punishment here is the symbolic meaning of a ban. The implication that a member has poor manners and judgement. Then there is the shame of being publicly castigated. I can find 101 ways to get around a ban if I wished, but that is not the point. Punishments have little to do with their physical nature, as long as the intent is carried out.

Anyways, that's some mighty interesting ideas people here have about punishment...

The irony of this post wasn't lost on me.

[Aemilius Paulus]

The irony of this post wasn't lost on me.

No, I meant every part of the post, if that is what you mean. Yes, I was implying that I often exercise poor manners and judgement on this site.

So which part was ironic to you?

[Socrates on Wheels]

My my. How dreadful.

[Beskar]

Did AP get banned?

[Hosakawa Tito]

My my. How dreadful.

Why the double post Subotan ?