Train bombed in Russia

[HoreTore]

Uhm, that's not true. What is true is that a lot of the organized crime these days is committed by Eastern Europeans entering the country with criminal intent.

What isn't true? That the eastern europeans are all crooks and thieves, or that we westerners regard them all as thieves and crooks?

The first one is false, the second is sadly true.

The far right is NOT on the rise, except in some countries - certainly in Hungary, but not in Poland (it pretty much doesn't exist as meaningful political force i.e. it wouldn't score above 2 % of votes in put together)

I have no problem with putting your twin president and his cronies in the "loony nationalist"-bin. And he was elected, was he not? Poland is also engaged in some very petty bickering with Germany over WW2(oh noes they're making a museum!!!1!11). Until Poland decides to just get over it, I'm placing the entire country in the loony bin.

Fact is; fascism is on the rise all over europe, eastern europe is no exception to that. Italy, Hungary and Russia are the worst.

[Viking]

What isn't true? That the eastern europeans are all crooks and thieves, or that we westerners regard them all as thieves and crooks?

The first one is false, the second is sadly true.

Neither is fully true. You bet most would become pretty uncertain if they were to draw a line on a map of Europe to define the west and the east; and if they heard a name, they would have troubles locating it. Those who are sure about what they mean probably think most foreigners are thieves and crooks, anyway.

Until Poland decides to just get over it, I'm placing the entire country in the loony bin.

It appears that what you mentioned above applies to you to some degree, if to no one else..

[Devastatin Dave]

I hope no prayer rugs got burnt in this attack. i really hate seeing that.

[cegorach]

I've ignored that before, but right now I am not in the mood.

What isn't true? That the eastern europeans are all crooks and thieves, or that we westerners regard them all as thieves and crooks?

The first one is false, the second is sadly true.

I guess that might be true for you. Let's not generalise.

I have no problem with putting your twin president and his cronies in the "loony nationalist"-bin.

So ?

And he was elected, was he not?

And his popularity ratings are around 20 %... Go figure.

Many people are leceted in specific conditions and for wrong reasons and the voters have to suffer such mistakes like this.

Of course I am certain that in your country that never happened. I am sure of that.

Poland is also engaged in some very petty bickering with Germany over WW2(oh noes they're making a museum!!!1!11).

You clearly know nothing about it. Currently it is German problem - as you could notice (if you cared to read something). That is a problem with certain lady who is making a political issue and is opposed by EVERY single German party except Bavarian CSU and a part of christian democrats.

In Poland her presence is opposed from the beginning, not the idea of such a museum.
I don't like her as well and feel inclined to agree with people such as one Wladyslaw Bartoszewski.

But who is he ? Just another loonatic uncomparable with certain HoreTore from the Internet !

Just see his biography - Polish politician (so loonatic), social activist (probably meaningless), journalist (wrote a few texts for sure), writer (we know who are those writers anway), historian (anybody can claim that), Auschwitz concentration camp inmate (people exaggerate, it wasn't so bad as they say), soldier of Armia Krajowa (of what ?), Polish underground activist (so hid doing nothing), participant of the Warsaw Uprising (in what ?), twice the Minister of Foreign Affairs (by mistake), chevalier of the Order of the White Eagle (and what is that ?), honorary citizen of Israel (they are giving that to anybody) and other rubbish, awarded by some loosers from Germany, Austria, Israel, Poland, Britain etc.

Until Poland decides to just get over it, I'm placing the entire country in the loony bin.

Untill you revoke your statements I am doing the same to you.

I believe that is a bit more rational although the damage surely irreparable.

Fact is; fascism is on the rise all over europe, eastern europe is no exception to that. Italy, Hungary and Russia are the worst.

So you've changed your opinion then, in some part at least ? Nice to see that, but I am afraid you would have to tell that to our fascists.
I doubt that they will buy it, though.

Never won anything in any elections and never appeared in any political rankings.

They might be glad that still some foreigner observes their 'rise'.

I guess it is possible, after all if 100 people supported you among 10 000 000 and now 125 do - it is indeed a dramatic, 25 % rise !

Fear their wrath ! Bow before their anger !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNUW...eature=related

Mr.Kononowicz is the most successful candidate from the fascist and quasi-fascist parties in Poland EVER. 1.9% in local elections in Bialystok.


Forgive me, but for a while I will ignore this danger. I know that is foolish and it is certain that candidates such as Mr.Kononowicz will dominate our political scene, soon, very soon.

[cegorach]

Anyway, I guess the topic is pretty much closed.

We will learn nothing useful in close future about the attack.

[HoreTore]

Closed?

Now that I once again have managed to rile up nationalistic feelings? What a shame....

Neither is fully true. You bet most would become pretty uncertain if they were to draw a line on a map of Europe to define the west and the east; and if they heard a name, they would have troubles locating it. Those who are sure about what they mean probably think most foreigners are thieves and crooks, anyway.

Try reading the reader comments on the debate section of VG.

[cegorach]

Closed?

Now that I once again have managed to rile up nationalistic feelings? What a shame....

?? Sure feelings - disgust, distaste and disbelief.

So it is partially true making it most truthful and undisputed statement you've made in this thread.

I doubt that systaing an entire topic just to improve that to anger and outrage is pretty much pointless, but don't worry you can always start a blog.

[HoreTore]

?? Sure feelings - disgust, distaste and disbelief.

So it is partially true making it most truthful and undisputed statement you've made in this thread.

I doubt that systaing an entire topic just to improve that to anger and outrage is pretty much pointless, but don't worry you can always start a blog.

If you could answer without the personal attacks I could respond to your posts, you know


@Viking: You're from Bergen. It doesn't count as part of civilization, sorry.... Also, I never said that we all do it, I don't and neither do a lot of others. But saying that a lot of people don't consider eastern europeans as criminals is like saying a lot of us don't consider muslims as fanatical terrorists or africans as rapists. It's both sad and true.

There's a reason why eastern europeans are among the groups of people FRP wants out of the country. And it ain't because we're such a loving country, Viking... except when we want to exploit poles as slaves of course....

[Viking]

Try reading the reader comments on the debate section of VG.

No thanks.

I was though thinking it was a bit odd that the local buss company back West desired to hire thieves and crooks en masse. More than a bit odd actually...