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    Maybe I missed it but as to confusion from one language to another, why have none of the Germans listed become?

    In German you would gladly become a steak but it may not be a good idea in English.

    What many cite as a French influence in English is actually Latin. Norman French had an influence but most French is just borrowed words and the structure is more Latin.

    English once had all of the cases and genders of German, as well as the assortment of ways to make a plural. I can’t say that it is bad that it has been streamlined.

    It all dose make it more difficult for English speakers to master other languages, at least I think so.

    My struggles with German are legion and I won’t even mention Bavarian...

    Some of you have confused grammar with sentence structure. English is a very pliable language and it adds to its expressiveness. Nouns can be used as verbs and verbs can be used as nouns and make sense.

    The vowels are problematic. Any one can sound like almost any other in a given word and the number of different accents don’t help that at all.

    English has more sounds with fewer letters than most other languages and the use of diphthongs can cause problems for non native speakers.

    But if you want a challenge you can try the oldest spoken language in Europe. The spelling scares the heck out of me and the pronunciation of letters needs to be relearned and more...

    Try to learn Irish or as some would say Gaelic...


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    Of course become is a classic. But at least it's one you learn about at school extensively.

    And Gaelic really is scary. Just seeing the written word and then how it is pronounced astounds me every time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    It all dose make it more difficult for English speakers to master other languages, at least I think so.
    It's a cultural thing rather than an actual language thing. We seem to take genuine pride in what is actually a national embarrassment; namely, our amazingly poor language skills.

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    My struggles with German are legion
    Der den dem des
    Die die der der
    Das das dem des
    Die die denr der


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    I won’t even mention Bavarian...
    "Habèderè, i bî da Pèda und kimm vo Minga"


    Try to learn Irish or as some would say Gaelic...
    It's impossible and pointless. The word order is way more screwed up than in German. Although it is funny having to explain to Germans that Welsh is no mere dialect of English, and then having to show them some Welsh to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    It's a cultural thing rather than an actual language thing. We seem to take genuine pride in what is actually a national embarrassment; namely, our amazingly poor language skills.
    This is true, but with 6-10 times the vocabulary as other languages, and the need to master complex syntax in order to have the flexability of an inflected language. So, a native speaker probably uses more brain-space for his first language if that language is English.

    It's impossible and pointless. The word order is way more screwed up than in German. Although it is funny having to explain to Germans that Welsh is no mere dialect of English, and then having to show them some Welsh to prove it.
    I understand Welsh sounds like a Scandanavian Language to Germans, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    It's a cultural thing rather than an actual language thing. We seem to take genuine pride in what is actually a national embarrassment; namely, our amazingly poor language skills.



    Der den dem des
    Die die der der
    Das das dem des
    Die die denr der



    "Habèderè, i bî da Pèda und kimm vo Minga"



    It's impossible and pointless. The word order is way more screwed up than in German. Although it is funny having to explain to Germans that Welsh is no mere dialect of English, and then having to show them some Welsh to prove it.
    Where are you from? Because I always thought you were Bavarian...

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