Netherworld II [Concluded]

[ULC]

No, not for looking into night kills. It's because he claimed to be a pro town power role, so I bet that investigators were all over him like flies on honey. So either hes

a) lying, and its worth for an investigator to reveal himself so we can lynch a baddie
or
b) a power role, in which case investigators wont speak up (no reason to reveal themselves) and we should treat him like a CI and stop voting for him like you did above.

Sasaki - I'm well aware that by posting this it looks like I'm fishing for investigator reveals. However it needed to be said and someone might as well bite the bullet. I doubt an actual mafioso would risk coming right out and saying it, and investigators are afraid they'll get spotted this way as well. Better me than an actual investigator coming out to say something. Now get your sinking vote off me you damn dirty ape!

I'm not voting based upon soley what I said, but more or less what the town, as a whole, agreed upon last round - give TC one more round. He has be given that round, for those to investigate who can - nothing has come up, even through proxies.

TC is not what he says he is, and he has lied to the town. Therefore, he should die, if by that judgment alone.

[Beskar]

Hypothetically speaking, lets say those kills were different and TinCow was a mafia. Would him arguing it was the same (on the night he was investigated) be an attempt to try to show that "That same Mafia last night was killed again, it isn't me!" when it could be a case of not all the Mafia kill in one night (cue: Mafia Mongolia) thus he has a vested interest in saying those kills are the same and not different.

Obviously that is hypothetical, with the implication from YLC that he was investigated and nothing was shown about him.

[TinCow]

TC is not what he says he is, and he has lied to the town.

Prove it.

[ULC]

Prove it.

I don't have to prove anything TC - the burden of proof is on you since you said that you were protown, it is you who has to prove that you are protown, not have the town prove you are.

[TinCow]

I don't have to prove anything TC - the burden of proof is on you since you said that you were protown, it is you who has to prove that you are protown, not have the town prove you are.

Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.

TinCow 6(Seon, Thermal Mercury, Chaotix, Cultured Drizzt fan, pever, A1_Unit)
GH 5(ATPG, YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter)
Beskar 2(GH, Sasaki)
Seon 2(Captain C, Yaro)
...etc

[TinCow]

I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.

You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

I call huge amounts of bovine feces on this line.

If I were mafia, I could just kill you myself; No need to stick my neck out here and lynch you, because a guy who tries his best to get a supposed "pro-town role" lynched right off the bat will die shortly thereafter, if not before. I am not ensuring my survival as a scumbag in doing so, and it would be soooo much easier to just kill you. Especially given how many kills there are.

A mafioso attempt to off an opponent wouldn't involve a lynch at this stage. They would allow the town to lynch whoever, as long as it wasn't one of them. Again, you're a better player than that... and when I match that up with your bizarre defense of Sasaki in round one, I have to ask you, what the heck is going on? You're completely off your rocker.

[Andres]

TinCow, since you already claimed to have a pro-town role and have thus exposed yourself, mind to share the specifics?

[GeneralHankerchief]

It is decision time. TinCow either lives or dies this round.

Oh I'm going to have fun with this one in the future.

As for me, my vote stays on AVSM until TinCow next responds.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Well.... Tincow may be telling the truth, so for now I am willing to leave him alone personally.

Vote: Yaropolk

[Winston Hughes]

vote: johnhughthom

For casting the first vote against me yesterday - without giving any reason - and then going totally quiet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Prove it.

Vote: TinCow

As you wish

[woad&fangs]

I agree with YLC and the others on this. vote: Tincow

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree with YLC and the others on this. vote: Tincow

unvote, vote: woad&fangs

Fine, how about this one?

Vote tinCow

Claiming to be pro-town pretty much sealed your death. Why would the mafia even risk letting a strong pro town force live.

This is a no brainer. (and if we're wrong than you have noone else to blame but your own tactics.)

I also like this one.






Here's a tally, since no one else wants to do one.

ATPG: 8/9 (Kralizec, TinCow, (Beefy187 did not unvote WH), Chaotix, Yaropolk, Double A, GH, pevergreen, johnhughthom, CCRunner)
TinCow: 3 (woad&fangs, Thermal Mercury, Peasant Phill)
Csargo: 3 (Diamondeye, YLC, Csargo)
woad&fangs: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
Yaropolk: 1 (CDF)
Johnhughthom: 1 (Winston Hughes)
Winston Hughes: 1/0 (Beefy187 did not unvote WH)

Diamondeye: 1 (Centurion1)

CCRunner: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)




Abstain: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

[Csargo]

Unvote:Csargo, Vote:TinCow

I don't believe it.

[Andres]

Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.

There have been more than 2 kills, investigators could be dead already. Not very likely, but it's possible.

A detective for a mafia is usually seen as a good trade, so if TC doesn't get lynched, the investigator will come forward next round to make us lynch TC.

Since it's unlikely that the investigators are dead, I'm inclined to let TC off the hook.

What role could I possibly claim that would be believed by you? Seriously. After this many games with me, you actually think me posting a role reveal will convince you one way or another?

Fair enough.

Vote : CCrunner