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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Would be interesting for Europe Union to form its own army. The combined effort would produce a super-power status armed forces which could rival America.
    as i have said many times before; it doesn't matter how many shiny war toys the EU could collect together, europe is post-war, they don't have the balls to use those toys, so it would have very little influence in bolstering europes foreign policy.

    it would just look very pretty on the parade ground, and be treated as such.

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    you also need to be able to create a common foriegn policy........... which doesn't exist.
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    In theory the idea is interesting, it would just be the next big stage of a process in defence procurement and cooperation that is already happening to some degree.

    The only problem is there would be no political agreement on when to use it so it would be pointless having in the first place!

    Edit: Although like to add, pretty sure all the EU defence budgets combined still wouldn't rival the US one.
    even that doesn't work very well, A400 anyone, or Horizon, etc.

    agreed, as i said above.

    indeed not, because europe is post-war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    YESSSSSSSS
    given your enthusiasm for a euro-army is expressed in a thread dedicated to the most euroskeptic british electorate in a long time, i have to question your judgement. do you honestly see the next parliament having a mandate for foriegn policy integration with the EU sufficient to create a euro-army?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    as i have said many times before; it doesn't matter how many shiny war toys the EU could collect together, europe is post-war, they don't have the balls to use those toys, so it would have very little influence in bolstering europes foreign policy.

    it would just look very pretty on the parade ground, and be treated as such.
    You would make a great American.


    you also need to be able to create a common foriegn policy........... which doesn't exist.
    Other than NATO which can be argued as one, there is the brand new office which could cover this... so yes, there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    You would make a great American.

    Other than NATO which can be argued as one, there is the brand new office which could cover this... so yes, there is.
    am i wrong.

    NATO constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defence in response to an attack by any external party, and having a high representative does mean we have anything even remotely like common foreign policy objectives.
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