If this keeps on, I'm shelving MW2 forever.

[Husar]

Well, if you ask me, akimbo should be removed from the game completely, while jumping there should be a possibility to literally shoot yourself in the foot if you pull the trigger and aiming while running around should be even more inaccurate, and then maybe turn all game modes into hardcore.
Oh and the knife, less range and if both people press the button the second should defend against it so it's back to gunz. And it's damage should be more random from instakill to pretty hurt.
But ain't gonna happen I'm afraid.

It works as it is but the akimbo G18 reminds me of the Wirbelwind in CoH, you simply lose if you attack it with infantry, unfortunately COD, unlike CoH, is all about infantry, it's become a bit silly IMO, given that the graphics are all realistic etc., I wouldn't mind space marines running around like that, or space orcs.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Being enough of a loser to get a 25 kill killstreak on Call of Duty should be punished, not rewarded.

thats not true. just cuz you dont like it doesnt mean that getting a high killstreak means you're a loser. i get high killstreaks sometimes, but im not a loser.

Is it... fun?

the noobtubing and ACR-ing? yes. i still have trouble camping, because everytime i do i get either instantly killed by someone who looks at the camping spot, or i never see anyone.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I never understood while a shot to the torso from a rifle won't instantly kill a person, but one knife stab, through layers of clothing and body armor, will.

CR

[Beskar]

That is why I don't like games such as MW2 that much for their combat.

You can spray some one full of lead and they act if nothing happed, but a stratch with a knife? Dead.

[Husar]

Well, I don't mind it in Battlefield (Bad Company) because the Batlefields are far more open, you don't jump 3 meters forward when doing it and the other guy usually gets a fair chance to stop you before you get close enough, but COD has a lot of close quarters combat and you can run ridiculously fast so some people run around and use almost exclusively the knife.

[Subotan]

thats not true.

Yes it is. I would consider myself a loser if I did WCs with Mazovia on EUIII something, which requires about the same level of dedication/desperation as getting a 25 kill streak on COD.

just cuz you dont like it doesnt mean that getting a high killstreak means you're a loser..

I cannot understand why you would go to the hassle, and spend the time camping to get such high kill streaks, just so you turn a greyed out picture into a coloured in one. That goes for any game.

=. i still have trouble camping, because everytime i do i get either instantly killed by someone who looks at the camping spot, or i never see anyone.

So you complain about people camping, and your solution to that complaint is to camp.

Hmm.

[Gregoshi]

So you complain about people camping, and your solution to that complaint is to camp.

I noticed that phenomenon with my son and nephew. I remember them way back in the Modern Warfare era () bitterly complaining about other players always using "noob tubes". On vacation a couple of summers back, my brother and I joined them in a little off-line multiplayer Modern Warfare. My brother and I had just dabbled once or twice with the game so we were pretty bad but the boys played constantly. Guess what their favourite weapon was to kill us? Right, the noob tube (like they needed it). When we pointed out the hypocracy, they just gave a little grinned and shrugged. "Do unto others what you DON'T want them to do to you" seems common in these FPS games if two plus years of watching the boys play is any indication. Though to be fair to them, they are rarely guilty of camping.

[Subotan]

Just play TF2. No grenades or campers there, thank God

[Husar]

the best matches are those with 2 campers, 2 guys with akimbo shotguns/G18s and 2 guys noobtubing.
And it's almost guaranteed that you will happen upon the wrong person at the wrong time and in the wrong position.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Yes it is. I would consider myself a loser if I did WCs with Mazovia on EUIII something, which requires about the same level of dedication/desperation as getting a 25 kill streak on COD.

ummm.....what? i dont know what you were saying about EU 3, but I know that getting 7 kills guarantees you a nuke if you have harriers and chopper gunner. AC-130 is better on maps like Rust, but most of the time chopper gunners can get inside buildings pretty easy.

I cannot understand why you would go to the hassle, and spend the time camping to get such high kill streaks, just so you turn a greyed out picture into a coloured in one. That goes for any game.

i dont camp. occasionally i'll hide for some quick kills if im close to 7 or 11 kills, but never to the point that it could be called "camping". maybe 3 kills at max and i'll move on.

So you complain about people camping, and your solution to that complaint is to camp.

Hmm.

uhhhh....what? you misunderstood. i meant that i tried it a few times, and i've never gotten more than a kill or 2 with it. which is 1 reason why i hate campers; i never get kills when i try, but they always get me when they try.

I noticed that phenomenon with my son and nephew. I remember them way back in the Modern Warfare era () bitterly complaining about other players always using "noob tubes". On vacation a couple of summers back, my brother and I joined them in a little off-line multiplayer Modern Warfare. My brother and I had just dabbled once or twice with the game so we were pretty bad but the boys played constantly. Guess what their favourite weapon was to kill us? Right, the noob tube (like they needed it). When we pointed out the hypocracy, they just gave a little grinned and shrugged. "Do unto others what you DON'T want them to do to you" seems common in these FPS games if two plus years of watching the boys play is any indication. Though to be fair to them, they are rarely guilty of camping.

i dont remember it being a problem in cod4. luckily, all the good cod4 players now play mw2, so i pown when i play it.

[al Roumi]

ummm.....what? i dont know what you were saying about EU 3, but I know that getting 7 kills guarantees you a nuke if you have harriers and chopper gunner.

I think he means that there is something more important in life than computer games.

What a weirdo....

[Prussian to the Iron]

I think he means that there is something more important in life than computer games.

What a weirdo....

inorite?

i bet he sees people jogging down the street exercising and doesn't think "why would they be doing that? they could be playing the xbox or computer?".

[Subotan]

ummm.....what? i dont know what you were saying about EU 3, but I know that getting 7 kills guarantees you a nuke if you have harriers and chopper gunner. AC-130 is better on maps like Rust, but most of the time chopper gunners can get inside buildings pretty easy.

I was comparing getting a 25 kill streak on COD to doing a world conquest with Mazovia, a tiny principality in the centre of Poland. Both require similar levels of desperation.

i dont camp. occasionally i'll hide for some quick kills if im close to 7 or 11 kills, but never to the point that it could be called "camping". maybe 3 kills at max and i'll move on.



uhhhh....what? you misunderstood. i meant that i tried it a few times, and i've never gotten more than a kill or 2 with it. which is 1 reason why i hate campers; i never get kills when i try, but they always get me when they try

My mistake. But you do clearly resort to cheap tactics, whilst complaining about cheap tactics.

I think he means that there is something more important in life than computer games.

What a weirdo....

Don't get me wrong, I play and enjoy many computer games, ranging from grand strategy to FPSs. But to take it so seriously that you do a WC with Mazovia, or to strive to attain a 25 kill streak on COD is just dumb.

inoi bet he sees people jogging down the street exercising and doesn't think "why would they be doing that? they could be playing the xbox or computer?".

It's too cold to exercise where I live.

[al Roumi]

Don't get me wrong, I play and enjoy many computer games, ranging from grand strategy to FPSs. But to take it so seriously that you do a WC with Mazovia, or to strive to attain a 25 kill streak on COD is just dumb.

I understand. Everyone has a line that they draw between their hobby/interest and what they perceive as unhealthy/sad/obsession/addiction.

I do find it amusing that you proclaim a boundary to acceptable enthusiasm, interest and application on a forum for computer game enthusiasts. For some people (e.g. my girlfriend...), even talking about computer games might in itself consitute a fair degree of "desperation" or "dumbness".

[Subotan]

I understand. Everyone has a line that they draw between their hobby/interest and what they perceive as unhealthy/sad/obsession/addiction.

Sure, of course.

I do find it amusing that you proclaim a boundary to acceptable enthusiasm, interest and application on a forum for computer game enthusiasts. For some people (e.g. my girlfriend...), even talking about computer games might in itself consitute a fair degree of "desperation" or "dumbness".

To be fair, I hardly talk about games on this forum. Most of my time is spent discussing politics.

[Prussian to the Iron]

I was comparing getting a 25 kill streak on COD to doing a world conquest with Mazovia, a tiny principality in the centre of Poland. Both require similar levels of desperation.

ah. its not really that hard; my buddy got one in a free-for-all. it is, once again, just about getting that 7-kill streak and choppergunner/ac130.

My mistake. But you do clearly resort to cheap tactics, whilst complaining about cheap tactics.

i think everyone at one time or another does. however its the fact that many of the people simply use the same cheap tactic the entire 10 minute game, rather than try to play the game like it's supposed to be every minute or two.

Don't get me wrong, I play and enjoy many computer games, ranging from grand strategy to FPSs. But to take it so seriously that you do a WC with Mazovia, or to strive to attain a 25 kill streak on COD is just dumb.


It's too cold to exercise where I live.

as Alh_p said; everyone has their own boundaries. i think trying to dominate the entire world in E:TW with Prussia or Marathas is easy enough that it isn't unhealthy (took me a few weeks BTW). however I think that going into Oblivion and Morrowind and searching for every single little tiny easter egg, killing every single person you can after completing all the quests, and continuing to RP after completing all those quests.....is more than a little over-the-top. thats like a hundred miles over the top.

getting a nuke isn't as hard as i make it sound; its really the campers that ruin it for me.

[Monk]

It never ceases to amaze me that the top kill streak in MW2 is, in essense, a button that flat ends the game. You stop cold all enjoyment of the game for everyone else and kill all playing, even teammates. With a finisher like that it's no wonder people resort to the "cheap" tactics, the game is encouraging it after all.

Yes it is. I would consider myself a loser if I did WCs with Mazovia on EUIII something, which requires about the same level of dedication/desperation as getting a 25 kill streak on COD.

...

however I think that going into Oblivion and Morrowind and searching for every single little tiny easter egg, killing every single person you can after completing all the quests, and continuing to RP after completing all those quests.....is more than a little over-the-top. thats like a hundred miles over the top.

One man's idiocy is another man's good time. Different strokes from different folks and all that assorted talk.

[Subotan]

One man's idiocy is another man's good time. Different strokes from different folks and all that assorted talk.

Of course. I'm just justifying my idiocy.

[Monk]

Of course. I'm just justifying my idiocy.

Isn't that what we're all here at the .Org to do?

[CrossLOPER]

Just play TF2.

With his level of frustration, I would recommend Left4Dead.