Question about a Unit attribute

**athanaric** · 01-19-2010, 17:16

Out of curiosity, can you tell me what unit you are referring to specifically? I'm wondering because all infantry spears in EB have 0.13 lethality, except for pikes (0.15 for Speudogordoz and 0.17 for phalangites).

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 01-19-2010, 19:38

Originally Posted by athanaric

Out of curiosity, can you tell me what unit you are referring to specifically? I'm wondering because all infantry spears in EB have 0.13 lethality, except for pikes (0.15 for Speudogordoz and 0.17 for phalangites).

I believe all overhand spears have lethality of 0.13 while underhand spears are 0.125

**athanaric** · 01-19-2010, 20:19

Originally Posted by Brave Brave Sir Robin

I believe all overhand spears have lethality of 0.13 while underhand spears are 0.125

Nope, all have 0.13. Except for the Gaesamica and Iabarannta apparently, they have 0.124 and 0.125 respectively. Looks like his unit was one of these two.

**Vesinger** · 01-19-2010, 21:23

Thanks for the answer. The sample was just randomly pick and I forgot what that was.

I was actually interested in the "Pahlava and Baktria Cataphract Duel". I found that the Attack Point for Pahlavan Elite Cataphract and Baktria Hetairoi Cataphract are the same. However, Pahlavan Cataphract does not have "ap" attribute but the lethality was 0.225, while Baktrian Cataphract have "ap" but lethality was only 0.1. That was a pretty big difference, which led me wonder the contribution of this "lethality" value in actual combat. This value was very uniform for infantry, but they frequently differ by several fold for cavalries.

**Metaluis90** · 01-20-2010, 04:10

Originally Posted by Vesinger

Thanks for the answer. The sample was just randomly pick and I forgot what that was.

I was actually interested in the "Pahlava and Baktria Cataphract Duel". I found that the Attack Point for Pahlavan Elite Cataphract and Baktria Hetairoi Cataphract are the same. However, Pahlavan Cataphract does not have "ap" attribute but the lethality was 0.225, while Baktrian Cataphract have "ap" but lethality was only 0.1. That was a pretty big difference, which led me wonder the contribution of this "lethality" value in actual combat. This value was very uniform for infantry, but they frequently differ by several fold for cavalries.

AP, what does that means?

**Cute Wolf** · 01-20-2010, 05:05

AP = armour piercing attack..... it will count enemy armour defense only in half (so are much moe effective at killing armoured foes)

**Grade_A_Beef** · 01-20-2010, 18:21

Apparently however the larger lethality of the longsword is more deadly than the AP Kopis.

I forgot where I saw it, but there was a forum thread that compared the highest armored bodyguard units with one another. Although the Pahlava bodyguards lose consistently to Saka Rauka and Armenian bodyguards (both of which have AP and .165) they dominate the Baktrians, who have more points in armor but have a measly .11 lethality (with AP). The Baktrians in turn have an advantage against the Saka and Armenians O_o

Not that it matters however, seeing as their primary weapon, the lance (and the only weapon the computer uses) is the best against armored horsemen.