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    Default Re: Woohoo! Go, Scott Brown.

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    Default Re: Woohoo! Go, Scott Brown.

    Nice one!
    Also, would you let illegals just rot to death and deny them healthcare, it looks inhumane in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Nice one!
    Also, would you let illegals just rot to death and deny them healthcare, it looks inhumane in my eyes.
    Actually, even as a leftie, I would not agree with your point. The last thing US needs is providing for illegals. The fact they do not pay taxes is bad enough, and the illegals are almost never turned down in the ER (Emergency Room) because that is illegal. And the anchor babies, a concept which is widely and blatantly abused by illegals...

    So now you tell me they should get healthcare as well? What happened to the fact they are breaking the law by staying in US, and that they can go back anytime they want to Mexico (or whichever Central American/Caribbean state they belong to). I mean, your idea is noble and splendid, sure, but it is not sustainable. A healthcare system for US citizens only would necessitate a sharp tax increase, but providing for illegals as well would push taxes up and possibly over the levels of European welfare states - something most Americans loathe, or at least would rather not have.

    Not to mention, legal immigrants like me do not/will not receive free healthcare - why should illegals, of all the people, receive it? Despite the fact that I would love to receive free healthcare myself, I do not think US should provide for legal immigrants either. If US does it though, then it could face reverse medical tourism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Not to mention, legal immigrants like me do not/will not receive free healthcare.
    Even if they pay taxes, just like all other americans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Even if they pay taxes, just like all other americans?
    Well, for example, my family pays all the taxes any equivalent American would pay, owns significant property in US, but suppose if our incomes dropped to the level where an American would receive Medicaid, we would not (even if we continued paying the taxes, which an American of that level of poverty barely does - or does not pay at all, considering the tax returns). Also, I am not eligible for any public-university scholarships/public scholarship grants.

    So, if the new healthcare plan is unveiled, it is unlikely that my family will be covered. American citizenship is supposed to grant privileges unavailable to others, and it does. Otherwise, how do you distinguish an American from an immigrant? Residing and working in US is a privilege, not a right. The privilege entails certain costs, certain restrictions. And I am lucky enough already.
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    I heard from a friend ( I dont think it's true, because it's so weird) that you get a scholarship in America just because you're good in a sport, can anybody confirm this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    I heard from a friend ( I dont think it's true, because it's so weird) that you get a scholarship in America just because you're good in a sport, can anybody confirm this?
    Sure can. But you gotta be good.
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