Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
But incitement to violence and such should be met with arguments and debate, using the courts is counter-productive, it won't solve anything. Also, these arguments should be encouraged to come out into the public, they only represent a danger when people hide away with their grumbles. That's when violent acts can happen.
I think laws against incitement of hatred are ridiculous (seeing as how "hating someone" itself is not a crime) but incitement against violence should be very illegal and punished accordingly.

Ask yourself this: A hires a bunch of thugs to beat up minorities. B encourages his followers to beat up minorities. Wich of them should be punished? Both?


Quote Originally Posted by The Wizard View Post
Moluccans, perhaps, are a different matter, but even they usually aren't raging PVV-voting Islam haters. That is, perhaps, only a small and bitter element of the Moluccan minority -- and even then that segment of Moluccans is probably a lot more bitter at the Dutch majority and the Dutch state for lying to them, not delivering on their promises and putting them in concentration camps.
Very true.
A few years back I had a job/internship in Assen, where there's a sizable Mollucan community. One morning I arrived on the trainstation and came across dozens of cops and ME personel (=riot cops) on the way to work. Wich is not usually the case in Assen.
Turns out, that day was an anniversery of something (the 30th of the train crisis near De Punt I think, but I'm not sure) and the police, for some reason, feared there'd be riots.
As far as I know nothing serious happened that day, though.