3rd day of Real High School!!!!

[Subotan]

Urrgh. If you push yourself too hard, you'll burn yourself out and find yourself way, way in over your head when crunch time comes around.
In the exam room: "Huh, what's this? Just what is all this!? I don't remember STUDYING CALCULUS!! GAH!!!"

Calculus isn't as hard as every says it is

y = X^3 + 12X^2 - 21X + 64

Dy/dx = 3X^2 +24X -21

D2Y/DX2 = 6X + 24

It's best you go at your own pace and only focus on the subjects that you'll be needing to do to get what you want.

That said, you don't want to doa load of duff subjects. I know a girl who has done a combination of Dance, Film Studies, Drama, Textiles

[Hooahguy]

Urrgh. If you push yourself too hard, you'll burn yourself out and find yourself way, way in over your head when crunch time comes around.
In the exam room: "Huh, what's this? Just what is all this!? I don't remember STUDYING CALCULUS!! GAH!!!"
It's best you go at your own pace and only focus on the subjects that you'll be needing to do to get what you want. Anyway, I heartily concur with Rythmic here:

read my later post about not overwhelming yourself.

[Strike For The South]

Don't listen to Hooah, hit on everything with a pulse. You don't get these years back and it would be a sin to rationalize by saying "well I'm planning for the future". This time in your life begins a period of about ten years (maybe less) where you can do dumb stuff and people will write it off as kids being kids.

[Hooahguy]

well, Strike, i never said not to have fun. i said to take school seriously.
at the same time, one may argue, dont waste your high school years on parties and girls who will dump you after a bit anyways, take the time to do well in school, i assure you it will pay off.
and for gods sake study for the SATs.

[Strike For The South]

well, Strike, i never said not to have fun. i said to take school seriously.
at the same time, one may argue, dont waste your high school years on parties and girls who will dump you after a bit anyways, take the time to do well in school, i assure you it will pay off.
and for gods sake study for the SATs.

Memories>anything you could ever accomplish in high school.

Besides I know at least a few people who will marry there HS sweetheart. I'm not saying to blow it off but also don't stress over it. Life is to short to worry about if you can claim that one of your grea great grandparents was a minority so you can look better on your college apps.

[Aemilius Paulus]

OK. Can some adult mod tell PI not to pay attention to SFTS on this subject? I mean, memories and all that stuff is great, and I understand as well as empathise with the point SFTS is making, but what you do in HS determines the whole course of your life - and SFTS's post makes it seem like it is no big deal if you slack off in HS. You can relax and have fun later, PI, but generally speaking, 11th and 12th grades are not the time to do that.

The time for fun is not high school. Well, have fun, sure, but I as long as it does not affect your performance. Prussian Iron needs to make good marks and get into a decent Uni. Especially if his parents cannot pay for the full tuition and other expenses, which often amount to the entire tuition amount itself. Everything depends on his HS GPA, community service, extracurricular activities and such.

Once he gets into a god Uni, then he can have plenty of fun - I noticed the Uni is not only the place with the most such opportunities for such debauchery, but also, crucially, you will have time for those activities without it affecting your performance too much. You will love it, PI. And good marks are not as vital in the Uni, as long as you get your diploma with anything above a 3.0 GPA. Just as long as you wait until the UNi to have the fun, and get into a good one, than all will be fine (unless you absolutely slack off there)


Prussian Iron, you will regret for the rest of your life not doing well in high school. Solid education is basically the only way to make a good living, and especially in these times, where so many are jobless. I have a 4.65 GPA (could have been much higher too, if not for the way my HS calculates it - they count AP and DE courses the same as Honours ), 82 hours of community service, and more Dual-Enrollment & AP classes than Honours classes themselves. I took summer school and five classes a semester in the Uni. With no regular classes throughout all of HS (except for those classes which you had no choice, such as Physical Ed., etc).

Yet I still regret not being more involved in extracurricular or community service. I was an academic team (Quizbowl) member in both the school and the county team for all the duration of HS, as well as the NHS (National Honours Society), but that is hardly enough, especially since I did not do much in NHS. I now deeply regret that, and having already sent out applications, there is no second chance.

[ajaxfetish]

its because it looks much better if you go to an Ivy league than if you go to a CC. in todays very competitive work environment, you need the biggest advantage that you can get.

Keep in mind that the extremes aren't the only options. While a community college may not be the most impressive thing on a resume, a good state school can give you a very competitive education at a fraction of ivy league costs. If you can get on scholarship to one of the big name places, or if you're just filthy rich, then definitely go for it, but otherwise it may not be worth it.

Ajax

[Megas Methuselah]

Heh. I don't know why people are all like, "Oh you better try hard! Oh, you better not screw some girls!" What the heck, guys? Stop advising PI not to have a life. If he's anywhere near as smart as he claims he is, he won't even need to put an effort into classes to graduate with honours, awards, and scholarships. I didn't put any bit of effort into high school at all to get all those awards and scholarships I got, but heeeeeey; guess what? I got them.

SFTS is right. Just enjoy your high school life. And don't let those whild, drunk-on-hormone girls manipulate you like poor Subotan was complaining about. It isn't really too much of a difficulty to be the manipulator, you know? But maybe it is for the average guy, I don't know. I'm a pretty boy, see? I hope you are, too.

[Subotan]

And don't let those whild, drunk-on-hormone girls manipulate you like poor Subotan was complaining about. It isn't really too much of a difficulty to be the manipulator, you know?.

Well, s

[pevergreen]

Entire word subo, not just part of it.

SFTS is correct. Everyone thinks high school directs your life, but it doesnt. Not entirely sure how america's education works, but you can just upgrade here...

Whats that? Didnt get the OP/whatever it is in your area to get into medicine? Its ok, go into another course, get a good enough GPA and then upgrade to Medicine. I failed high school.

Not joking, I physically did not pass my final year. But with any luck, I should be attending uni in a few weeks. If not? Well I'm already well down the path of a respected and needed field.

[Samurai Waki]

I have to echo SFTS and Megas' sentiment. Don't let the years slip by under because you were working to hard to have a social life. Unless you're a Japanese businessman or intend to become one. If you work hard you should also party hard, do stupid things, and let a few girls manipulate you (what they don't know can't hurt em' right?). The hard work comes later, that's being a good husband, a good father, and Can support that structure, but I would have regretted it dearly had I not taken the time to be a stupid teenager from time to time.

[Hooahguy]

while high school may not be the deciding factor for your life, it certainly plays a big part.

[Aemilius Paulus]

while high school may not be the deciding factor for your life, it certainly plays a big part.

Well, much of it depends on how wealthy PI's parents are. Do I recollect PI said his father was a doctor? If so, then perhaps PI can have his fun, to a point. But seriously, what is wrong with waiting until the Uni to party?

[Megas Methuselah]

while high school may not be the deciding factor for your life, it certainly plays a big part.

Sure. But it's so ridiculously easy to get amazing grades in high school that you shouldn't be needing to worry about it. Unless you're not exactly a smart fellow, I guess, in which case you have my pity.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Sure. But it's so ridiculously easy to get amazing grades in high school that you shouldn't be needing to worry about it

*snickers*
*chuckles*
*snickers again and gives a fishy stare*

That depends what school you go to, and what courses you take, my young padawan. My school (WFHS) has a Bronze Medal from the US News and World Report nationwide HS rankings. UNaWR is the top-ranking authority on the matter of evaluating secondary and post-secondary institutions. On top of that, I took all the AP, Honours, and Dual-Enrolment I could. Not easy at all, my high school years were. Simply because you went to provincial, back-of-the-country (or one in de hood, as you say) Canuck school does not mean everyone else did, Meth

Whatever life may be, death and taxes will always be a part of it. And if that is not enough, there is always a way to make one's own life more complicated. Oh yes.

[Megas Methuselah]

*snickers*
*chuckles*
*snickers again and gives a fishy stare*

That depends what school you go to, and what courses you take, my young padawan. My school (WFHS) has a Bronze Medal from the US News and World Report nationwide HS rankings. UNaWR is the top-ranking authority on the matter of evaluating secondary and post-secondary institutions. On top of that, I took all the AP, Honours, and Dual-Enrolment I could. Not easy at all, my high school years were. Simply because you went to provincial, back-of-the-country (or one in de hood, as you say) Canuck school does not mean everyone else did, Meth

Whatever life may be, death and taxes will always be a part of it. And if that is not enough, there is always a way to make one's own life more complicated. Oh yes.

I guess the labour/brain drain here lowers the standards. In my eyes, that makes me a lucky bastard.

[jabarto]

also dont bother with HS girls. too much drama, not worth it. i speak from experience.

I wish like all hell I knew this when I went to high school. Little did I know that that cute brunette would be so crazy.

...but then again, I was kind of crazy too. Why else would I try to pick up a girl who honestly believed that the world would end in 2012 and that she would tell me she couldn't be with me because she was destined to give birth to the savior of the world before then and that the father would die a horrible death and she didn't want that to happen to me? Or who took the Bible literally but also believed in Egyptian mythology in some twisted leap of logic? And lest I forget; she also thought she was an angel who had her wings clipped off by Lucifer.

Oh, and just for the record; the not-wanting-the-father-to-die thing was apparently slang for "I already have a boyfriend" because I saw here with some other guy not long after.

But don't let my experience mar you too much. I had some good times in high school, and you will too.

[seireikhaan]

Watch out for drama. Keep your head up. You would be amazed how quickly high school turns into a soap opera/civil war. Not that you shouldn't socialize, but.... well, actually, I look back and really don't mind not socializing with the other folks at HS. College is better. Slog your way through it, have a bit of fun if you can, and try to make sure you can get to whatever college you feel like, though I would not necessarily advise you auto aim for ivy league and the like. But that's a discussion for another day.

[Samurai Waki]

Meh, went to UCLA my freshman and sophomore years, not that it's Ivy League, but I always hated the Stanford crowd, bunch of pretentious self aggrandizing... Anyway nothing wrong with State Universities.

[Major Robert Dump]

Can u pls make friends with senior girls over the age of 18 and post some pictures.

[Hax]

Listen to these men. LISTEN. Girls are a pain in the ass until university, to follow a general rule, they can manipulate you, they complain all the time because you're not up to their Edward Stupid-vampire-from-Twilight standards, and they suck your wallet dry.

This goes for almost all girls around that age. Luckily, those girls don't find me interesting at all. That's because I'm some weird musician kind of guy.

Listen, if you want girls, don't listen to that AP geek. Just pick op your guitar and play, just like yesterday, and pray you don't get fooled again. No but seriously, I'm probably not the best guy to advice you on women/girls, since the girls I hang out with are as creepy or insane as I am; luckily, I do have my successes there (I took my 'zouk with me two one festival, and after two hours, five girls had given me their phone numbers).

Do what your heart says is right

[Subotan]

AP is living proof that the best way to attract the opposite sex is to be asexual.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Listen, if you want girls, don't listen to that AP geek. Just pick op your guitar and play, just like yesterday, and pray you don't get fooled again. No but seriously, I'm probably not the best guy to advice you on women/girls, since the girls I hang out with are as creepy or insane as I am; luckily, I do have my successes there (I took my 'zouk with me two one festival, and after two hours, five girls had given me their phone numbers).

Do what your heart says is right

Yeah, you can do that in Netherlands, and still be OK. But US is not Netherlands. Different system.

[KukriKhan]

OK. Can some adult mod tell PI not to pay attention to SFTS on this subject?

I think I'll decline that invitation, because he's not wrong - and neither are you or the rest of the fellows here. The gist, the overall theme of all the posts here is: this is an important time of one's life, ages 15-19. Decisions made in that period will determine just how hard, or how easy, one's 20's and early 30's will be. So what is important when going through that period (in my opinion) is:

1) Pay attention; don't just drift through this time. Be deliberate in your choices of academics, sports, socializing, and health.
2) Get as much real education as you can afford, and can absorb. Teach yourself to learn quickly, any subject, in any environment, from any/all sources and people.
3) High School is always full of cliques, a natural tendancy among humans under stress. Try to learn to move among them, to find out what they're about, what "language" they speak. This'll be handy later in life.
4) Here's a secret: you are already a Man. It may not feel like it while living with parents and going to school... but you are. And YOU are now in charge of educating & developing YOU. So think like that, and act like it.

That's it, except for: have fun, and good luck, as we say on the tw battlefield.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Well, much of it depends on how wealthy PI's parents are. Do I recollect PI said his father was a doctor? If so, then perhaps PI can have his fun, to a point. But seriously, what is wrong with waiting until the Uni to party?

uh...actually my dad's a Major int he Marines......don't know where you got doctor from :D


anyway, yeah, most of the people there aren't appealing to me, as is expected, but I found at least 3 other girls to ask out. statistically, one should say yes, right?

classes are pretty easy. and aside from english, I love all my teachers, which is always good.

not sure if I said what English I'm taking; it's English 3. about half the class just gaffs off, and my half does the tiny workload and then talks. one of the girls is in this class. only thing that might screw it up is that shes totaly into jesus. i mean there's nothing wrong with that by itself, but if she's anti-semetic like many very religious catholics are, i'm screwed. and not the good way.

hmmm.......what else? just generaly I'm pretty happy. no two of my classes are more than maybe 2 minutes away, with hallway traffic. locker is centrally located, giving me enough time to quickly switch my stuff before lunch for the second half of my day. oh my my homeroom class (which is at like 10:15-10:45 for some reason) we literally can do anything we want, so I just use that time to get some sleep.


so yeah, I think I can survive until the end of the year when we move.




unrelated: one of my really good friends is goign to Westpoint in July! so excited for him; he's only like 16 1/2.

[Subotan]

but I found at least 3 other girls to ask out. statistically, one should say yes, right?

no

English is cool. Are you doing Lit or Lang?

And Congrats for your friend.

[Prussian to the Iron]

not entirely sure yet........I think it's literature, since we haven't done anything to do with grammar at all (which, honestly, shouldn't still be taught in an 11th grade class. I almost always use perfect grammar.)

and thanks; i should call him today.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I know what you mean by English III - I had the AP version of it in 11th grade, and I have a fair understanding of what the Honours and Regular students do in that class. For me, it was a class where we learned how to write all sorts of argumentation papers, while the Honours classes merely have a Literature course, generally speaking.

Anyway, PI, if your father cannot afford sending you to a good Uni, I would suggest you try to follow my advice, but then again, no one needs an excuse for slacking off, and even without the advice of the 'have fun' posters here, I am certain you will have a good time yourself. It is not as if teens listen to other's advice overmuch, especially if it runs against their desires, and I understand that perfectly.

[A Very Super Market]

AP is living proof that the best way to attract the opposite sex is to be asexual.

No, girls fawn over social pretty boys all the time. It doesn't matter if it isn't reciprocated. Hey, isn't that how guys work too?

[Aemilius Paulus]

No, girls fawn over social pretty boys all the time. It doesn't matter if it isn't reciprocated. Hey, isn't that how guys work too?

Actually, there is some truth to what Subo said, although I doubt girls find many things attractive in the fact I am asexual. Actually, what I had in mind was that most girls I have talked to on this subject say they are attracted to gay guys. Also, I have been told it was my 'innocence' (I know, I had to struggle to keep myself from laughing) which draws girls. Perhaps, the fact that a person is unattainable also adds some zest, in a more subconscious manner, but that is difficult to determine.

Now, of course, the target of attraction has to be reasonably good-looking, but that is not the point. There are a number of qualities which may attract the opposite sex, and hardly all, or even the majority of the girls in my school live up to the stereotypes. It is likewise possible some of it has to do with the fact that my school is rather selective (grades, conduct, and then a completely random lottery to choose from the people who have passed the aforementioned requirements), and not open to everyone, despite technically being a public school (we also receive all our funding from private sources). Although, of course, we have our share or people who, IMO, should not have gotten in.