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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Then his neighbour is the type of person that should just be ignored.
    So..... if you do something on your property which devalues my own property by say 100k, I should just shut up and take it? Nonsense.

    This situation is similar to this; 5 people are having a wonderful time together, sitting around a table chatting. Then suddenly a large brute comes in, behaving like a barbarian and making everyone around the table miserable. You say the brute has every right to do as he pleases, without regard to what others think and if they don't like his behaviour, they should leave. I say the other 5 have the right to tell the brute to either behave in an appropriate manner or leave. The State in this example, would be represented by the bouncer who will throw the brute away if he doesn't play nice.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Never hear that logic when the states decides to built something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Never hear that logic when the states decides to built something.
    Then you'd better get that hearing checked out. Or you could learn to read norwegian, I have the last few weeks of Aftenposten here and there's a zillion articles on the new building projects in Bjørvika there...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Having one power trash parts of the country does not mean it's a great idea to give everyone the same right.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Having one power trash parts of the country does not mean it's a great idea to give everyone the same right.

    What power, isn't like he's building it on the land of someone else. Robberment should just do it's real job and stop bullying when a sheep blah's out of sync.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    What power, isn't like he's building it on the land of someone else. Robberment should just do it's real job and stop bullying when a sheep blah's out of sync.
    The state is merely acting on behalf of his neighbors who don't like seeing their property values drop, frags.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    Let's try an example.

    Frag, you own a modest dwelling at the foot of a hill over looking some countryside. You like the rural life and wanted to get away form it all.

    Someone buys up 4 fields in front to make his new dwelling. Something classy that exudes taste. It so happens that he too thinks the view is nice, so he has the house facing the same way as yours in front.

    Sadly, his is 4 stories high with two wings, all but obliterating your view. He also decides he needs privacy, so builds a wall around his new state.

    It's his land, but I hope you see that it still impacting on those around him.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    But that isn't the case

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    That is the reason for the law. You apply, the application gets reviewed and accepted or rejected.

    Otherwise you're acting in an illegal manner.

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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    Law isn't a reason out of itself, this is just plain bullying, let men play a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Law isn't a reason out of itself, this is just plain bullying, let men play a little.
    Now you are just being stubborn. The guy is in the wrong, End of story.

    He purposely broke the law for his own selfish reasons with no regard for anyone else. He never did it for humanitarian or ethical-moral obligations, it was just some one with a lot of money who thought they were above the law who needs to be smacked back to earth.
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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    If he managed to keep it hidden for so long then how can it possibly be a problem for anyone, this is just the state being a prick because they can. OBEY

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    Breaking the law is not immoral. Being selfish is not immoral.

    I find the impulse to jeer and chop down anyone wealthy/famous/etc to be unappealing, along with the attitude some people here have.

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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    Fragony is the worst devil's advocate I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    It is funny that the legions of the right step-in to protect the rich man who broke the laugh. But they are first to condemn a man for stealing a loaf of bread because he is starving.
    sorry?

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2427301

    i smell a sweeping generalisation, and my last comment to subotan appears equally relevant here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Fragony is the worst devil's advocate I've ever seen.
    Are you ever going to post something constructive, or do we have to make due with the same type of empty one-liners you find everywhere on the net? It's not clever there and it's not clever here, isn't clever anywhere really, but all the more annoying because as some are here to actually discuss things instead of throwing paper planes through the classroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    sorry?

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2427301

    i smell a sweeping generalisation, and my last comment to subotan appears equally relevant here.
    Congratilations, Furunculus!!

    You're one of us lefties now
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Congratilations, Furunculus!!

    You're one of us lefties now
    don't bet on it! :p
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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Are you ever going to post something constructive, or do we have to make due with the same type of empty one-liners you find everywhere on the net? It's not clever there and it's not clever here, isn't clever anywhere really, but all the more annoying because as some are here to actually discuss things instead of throwing paper planes through the classroom.
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    Those who worry about CO2 gasses shouldn't breath so much, you are making it all worse. It's pretty clear, just about every theory of the IPCC was wrong or downright fraud, up to the point where India has officially stated that they don't trust the IPCC anymore and are leaving the party. And more are to come.

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    Default Re: British Court Orders Man to Demolish His Family's Home

    Back on topic, please.

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