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    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    What's with everybody who's supposed to challenge Obama in 2012? Rush has been banging the drum that it's Hillary, now it's Bayh? As I've said before, I cannot think of an example of a sitting President being unseated in a primary. Why would savvy politicians stake their careers on such an unlikely outcome?

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    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    That Hillary rumor first came up last month when she mentioned that she only wanted to serve one term as Sec. of State. Many Dems that are looking for re-election this year fear they will lose, and some aren't even going to run, choosing to "retire" instead. All those lost jobs aren't coming back anytime soon, and anti-incumbency fervor is as high as I ever remember it. Compared to Obama's policies the Republicans look like the anti-big guvmint party and Hillary looks like a conservative. Perceptions are reality in politics.

    It probably depends on who the Republican candidate is going to be, but if Democrats feel Hillary or whoever has a better chance to hold the presidency...it could happen. Especially if Obama can't turn things around.

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    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    What's with everybody who's supposed to challenge Obama in 2012? Rush has been banging the drum that it's Hillary, now it's Bayh? As I've said before, I cannot think of an example of a sitting President being unseated in a primary. Why would savvy politicians stake their careers on such an unlikely outcome?
    None was passed over during the primary era unless they opted out (Johnson 1968). The only time a sitting President who was eligible was not nominated was Franklin Pierce in 1856. We ended up with that most amazing of Presidents, Buchannan.
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    The only time a sitting President who was eligible was not nominated was Franklin Pierce in 1856.
    I didnt even know he existed until last year in my ap us history class, most worthless president therefore in my book.

    So why do you guys think this Bayh actually drop from the senate? Is it really "fear"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    I didnt even know he existed until last year in my ap us history class, most worthless president therefore in my book.

    So why do you guys think this Bayh actually drop from the senate? Is it really "fear"
    I don't really think so. He had a pretty good chance at getting reelected.

    I think any potential Democratic candidates for nominee are going to wait until very near when the primaries begin before they commit to running.

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    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    cant argue with you there.

    any takes on the multi show argument between biden and cheney.

    i doo find it a little outrageous for obama-biden to claim any of the credit for iraq for themselves.

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