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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Have you read on the negotiations for the Armistice?

    It was not “Hay! We give up. What will you do to us?

    It was a negotiated process.

    It began on 5 October with a German telegram to Wilson. There were several more exchanges and on 23 October Wilson added three more points to the agreement.

    As one of these points seemed to imply that the Kiser had to abdicate the Germans delayed and even considered further resistance.

    Once the Kiser abdicated the way was clear and they signed the peace on November 11th.
    Oh, yes, now let us consider that.

    Was is wise, or remotely reasonable, for Wilson to demand the Kaisar's abdication, and was the Allied call for him to be tried as a War Criminal justified?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Was is wise, or remotely reasonable, for Wilson to demand the Kaisar's abdication, and was the Allied call for him to be tried as a War Criminal justified?
    I won't address the War Criminal part, but the abdication part seems to be a totally moot point. If the Kaisar had not abdicated, he would have been overthrown. The German Revolution had already begun before he stepped down, and it became clear very quickly that it had great popular support. That was not temporary support either, as Weimar survived the Kapp Putsch in 1920 purely on the basis of popular support. By late 1918, Germany was done with Kaisars, and nothing could change that.


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