Balancing Royal Units

**Thermal** · 02-25-2010, 22:58

Originally Posted by gollum

Take it easy thermal, there's a whole world outside, much wider and much wiser (in parts) than the org ;)

Wiser? pfft, you seen the youth of today? ;]
I'm not completely glued to the computer, but me stupidly starting about 10 things at once means I have to come on a lot anyway.

Anyway...yeah, unit...balancing... thingy....Brandy Blue hasn't even commented once after all of the posts we've put up.

**Brandy Blue** · 02-26-2010, 02:24

Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Anyway...yeah, unit...balancing... thingy....Brandy Blue hasn't even commented once after all of the posts we've put up.

That's because I came seeking wisdom, not to inpart it. I was intending to thank everyone (and I do so now) but wanted to wait a bit first, in case anyone had anything to add.

If any of you want to know, I have switched all bodyguard upkeep to 1. (Paying them zero just feels wrong to me. Not logical, I know.) I also switched the Vikings to desperate defender. That's enough to experiment with for now.

**Thermal** · 02-26-2010, 17:35

Fair enough, I'm just used to barging in to the conversations on my threads.

**oz_wwjd** · 04-02-2010, 13:28

This is kinda off-thread but when I attempted to play Scotland using the XL mod, the fact that the scot King wouldn't stop producing heirs drove me to the brink of bankrupcty. I had about a WHOLE STACK of just royal bodyguards and the upkeep on them was insane. I hate to think how the AI handles that kind of minus on it's income..

**Durango** · 04-02-2010, 17:47

Originally Posted by oz_wwjd

This is kinda off-thread but when I attempted to play Scotland using the XL mod, the fact that the scot King wouldn't stop producing heirs drove me to the brink of bankrupcty. I had about a WHOLE STACK of just royal bodyguards and the upkeep on them was insane. I hate to think how the AI handles that kind of minus on it's income..

True. Happens exactly that way in my Norwegian campaign in XL.

Maybe I'm gonna add some more income to Scotland as well as reducing upkeep for BGs.

**caravel** · 04-03-2010, 00:21

Originally Posted by oz_wwjd

This is kinda off-thread but when I attempted to play Scotland using the XL mod, the fact that the scot King wouldn't stop producing heirs drove me to the brink of bankrupcty. I had about a WHOLE STACK of just royal bodyguards and the upkeep on them was insane. I hate to think how the AI handles that kind of minus on it's income..

This actually bankrupts the AI. If you run the game in debug mode and switch factions to check treasuries, you will notice that the Danes suffer the most and are in the red after only a few turns - the same happens to the Aragonese as well. This is because of the heirs maturing and the faction controlling only one province.

In fact if you turtle a campaign as the Danes and try to take only the Scandinavian lands at first it is extremely difficult to stay afloat financially. Playing on huge unit size you will probably have to disband many of your own units in order to break even.

Yohei

**oz_wwjd** · 04-03-2010, 05:11

That might expain why the Aragonese frequently (for me at least) try to invade Spain with what seems like a full stack of nothing else but Royal Bodyguards,trying to reduce the loss on it's income,or isn't the AI capable of that kind of deductive thinking? I just thought it was stupid,since I took the same number of Jinettes and procceded to kill them via mass Javelin fire..