Hayasdan - General Bodyguard Cavalry

**Poulp'** · 02-26-2010, 22:55

Originally Posted by Naginata

Thanks for answers !

I have one more problem. I can't seem to start Orontid Empire Reforms.

If I understand Hayasdan Reforms Manual I need to "reform" the provinces by tiers, first tier is Persis (Persepolis) and Elymais (Suza)?

1. Have Pan-Caucasus Reformes
2. Capture Persis (Persepolis) and Elymais (Suza) provnices as reformes start in these two provinces (Tier I)?
3. Have Type III government in these two provinces
4. Build Royal Administration in Persis (Persepolis) and Elymais (Suza).

I have problem, because I can't build Royal Administration in Persepolis, it just isn't available. I built ist in Suza though.
I also built "The Conquerer comes..." in both provinces, still no "Expansion Precursor" available though...

You're forgetting something; quoted from the FAQ:

-Build Type3 governments in these cities (Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax, Susa, and Persepolis)
-Build (persiapart) in these cities (Susa and Persepolis)
= (Subjugation resources will appear in Susa, and Persepolis)

Notice that you must also have a type 3 gov in Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax in addition to Susa and Persepolis.
That means you must kick the AS out of their homeland before you can start the Orontid Reform.

**Naginata** · 02-27-2010, 00:32

Originally Posted by Poulp'

You're forgetting something; quoted from the FAQ:

Notice that you must also have a type 3 gov in Arbela, Seleukeia, Babylon, Ekbatana, Charax in addition to Susa and Persepolis.
That means you must kick the AS out of their homeland before you can start the Orontid Reform.

Splendid!

There is no mention of this requirements in .pdf Manual for Hayasdan reforms. I will try with instructions above as I already conquered all those provinces...

What is Persiapart BTW?

**Poulp'** · 02-27-2010, 01:34

Either Royal Administration or "The Conqueror Comes..." I don't remember which.

**WinsingtonIII** · 02-27-2010, 02:52

Persiapart is probably "The Conqueror Comes..." because it is a "part 1" building so to speak, in that later you will have to build the "part 2" of "...And Brings Peace and Order."

**Poulp'** · 02-27-2010, 03:08

well, since Royal Administration is required to build "The Conqueror Comes...", it doesn't really matter.

**Nyz** · 02-27-2010, 14:43

Hello Mr. Naginata.

I suspect that a building built by former owner of Persepolis (Arche Seleukeia) prevent you from build royal administration (Arkaiakan Ghekavarutsiun) in that city.

The Seleucid may have built Katoikiai ("homes for military settler" building), then upgraded it to Klerouchiai ("land for military settler") building.

Katoikiai ("homes for military settler" building) is the building that equal to the royal administration (Arkaiakan Ghekavarutsiun), while the upgrade for Katoikiai [Klerouchiai ("land for military settler")] is not the equivalent for the upgrade for royal administration (that is [Ashxarakalu Galise.... (the conquerer comes...)]) .

If the Seleucid have built Katoikiai ("homes for military settler" building) in the city that have been conquered by Hayasdan, you can proceed with the upgrade [Ashxarakalu Galise.... (the conquerer comes...) building] in that city.

but, if Katoikiai have been upgrade to Klerouchiai, you cannot build "the conquerer comes...", therefore you must destroy Klerouchiai, then build royal administration (Arkaiakan Ghekavarutsiun) before upgrade to [Ashxarakalu Galise.... (the conquerer comes...).

That reason maybe explained that why you can build TCC in Susa, but you cannot built TCC in Persepolis.

A while ago I am playing Hayasdan campaign and I have finish Persian-reform, and now I have finish the campaign, if you upgrade several city in the east part of the reform-tier to gov2, then the homeland resource will be appear at Susa and Persepolis, and you can upgrade both cities to gov1.

I pray that it can help you with your Persian-Reform. good luck!!!