Seven Man Scrimmage V - Red Herring Mafia [Concluded]

[Subotan]

22:57, 2nd October 1911, Carnegie Hotel, Pittsburgh, PA

The ballroom of the Carnegie Hotel is identical to Versailles' Hall of Mirrors, just without the mirrors. Massive in every dimension, and with walls covered in priceless art, it is the pinnacle of luxury in Edwardian America. It is so brightly illuminated by the colossal chandeliers that loomed over the visitor, that even at 11'o clock at night, the incomer would have to squint when he entered. Once the eyes had focused, they would naturally lay themselves upon the dominating glass panniers that hovered overhead. As the visitor began to count the twelve regularly inter-spaced baubles, he would notice that the seventh one was not in it's proper position. Rather, it was lying on the floor, in a thousand more pieces than it should have been, on top of a pair of shiny black shoes.

This particular visitor strode through the crowd of tuxedo-d middle aged men fretting around him towards the shoes. As he got there, some of the suited men had managed to push the beast of a chandelier of the shoes, which were revealed to be attached to a pair of legs which belonged to Mr Subotan, the master professional. Or, the late Mr Subotan, as Mr Subotan had recently undergone intense crushing, a death by tackiness. As the visitor knelt down and rolled the body over to confirm it's identity, a little blood could be seen to have stained the collar of the late gentleman's tuxedo. Around the cadaver, the suits were variously sobbing or gawking at the disaster which had just befell the convention.

The new arrival sighed and stood up. As he lit a cigarette, he raised his eyes to the banner draped over the long wall of the ballroom and cursed. For on that banner was printed, in foot high letters:

WELCOME
BUTLERS OF THE WORLD

Welcome to Subotan's first mafia game, a game inspired by the above Far Side cartoon! This is the latest in the now well established Seven Man Scrimmage series started by Diamondeye (Please don't kill me for pinching the SVS name), and I intend for this to be a simple game, yet one in which you are all kept in the dark.

Sign ups are CLOSED

Sign Ups 7/7
Thermal Mercury
Yaropolk
Cent1
Cow Tools Double A
Methos
Secura
ATPG

[Double A]

[Subotan]

I love the Far Side :3

And can I count that as an In?

[Thermal]

IN, my friend

[Yaropolk]

i'm in

[Centurion1]

in of course.

[Double A]

I love the Far Side :3

And can I count that as an In?

Nah I was just going out of my way to post Cow Tools in a random thread

[Diamondeye]

I'm absolutely fine with you using the name. This looks like an interesting setup, I will be lurking with great interest!

[Subotan]

It's not going to have any amazing new mechanics, but the write ups should be interesting.

[Methos]

I'm in.

[Secura]

I'm in too. :3

[Subotan]

Come on, just one more. It's a murder mystery at the World Butler Convention, that's got to have some takers.

[Methos]

Vote: The Butler

[Centurion1]

someone sign up. is it just me or are games lagging right now.

[Subotan]

Vote: The Butler

You are one mighty shrewd mafia player.

someone sign up. is it just me or are games lagging right now.

Games are lagging right now

[Askthepizzaguy]

You need players. I'll sign up.

[Secura]

Yay, we've got a game on now! \o/

[Subotan]

Yay

I'll aim to start it at 12:00 GMT

[Subotan]

Everyone now has a PM.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN

[Subotan]

The Pittsburgh Post

Convention Continues: Threat of Raging Psychopath "Exaggerated"

Despite the recent death of the esteemed Mr. Subotan, The World Butler Convention will continue. A spokesperson for the Convention, Mr Pevergreen issued a statement yesterday evening:

"Although it is of course incredibly unfortunate that the front-runner for the 'Best British Butler' Prize was impaled by three hundred shards of glass, the Convention's managers have decided not to cancel the Convention. There is no evidence yet that his death was the result of foul play, and the rumours of a 'mafia' who want everyone in the Convention disembowelled are clearly exaggerated, despite the messages written in blood on the Hotel's walls."

Third Party sources suspect that the convention will continue due to the power of the aristocratic families who have bankrolled the competition, and whose butlers are competing for the top prize. Mr Sniffleburg, the master of the late Mr. Subotan, was reported to have received phone calls from other members of the upper class which consisted of braying, taunts and quotes such as "That'll serve you right for shooting my bloodhound on Greenham Moor!". Mr Sniffleburg in a press conference said

It's a terrible crime, and the culprit should be apprehended and feel the full force of the law as quickly as possible. The destruction of such a beautiful chandelier is a monstrous act, and the fact that it puts me out of the running for winning "Best British Butler" prize only makes it worse!

Pittsburgh Police are currently conducting a investigation, with Inspector Collings leading the inquiry.

EDIT:Night should start iin 24 hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Woot.

Vote: No lynch

[Methos]

Is it just me, or is it best in a seven man game to always Vote: No Lynch on the first day?

[Centurion1]

vote: abstain

bad move to take a random lynch in a mini mafia.

[Subotan]

Ugh, you're all cowards.

In other news, I have decided that the competition of "Best British Butler" will be open to all butler characters. The winner is the butler who posts the most posts by the end of the game. Of course, you can't win if you're dead, so you have to be alive by the end of the game to win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Let me take a crack at breaking it down for those interested:

If: 1 murderous scum, 6 basic townies

Choosing not to lynch forces the 1 murderer to eliminate 1 of the wrong choices, which enables the 5 remaining townies to have a statistically better chance of eliminating the mafia. A 1/5 chance of guessing correctly on the second round instead of 1/6 on the first round.

And, due to the fact that there would still be 4 townies remaining after that lynch, the town can still make a mistake. 2 lynches at much better odds.

If: 2 murderous scum who don't know each other, 5 basic townies

Choosing not to lynch forces them to take a chance at accidentally hitting their own partner. Even if they do not, that leaves 2 scums remaining and 4 basic townies, giving you a 2/5 chance of hitting a mafia. 40% isn't bad.

If: 2 murderous scums who know each other, 5 basic townies

Slightly worse, but then your major problem is if you miss on the first lynch, and then get a murder as well. Then you have 2 scumbags who know each other versus 3 townies who do not, which means ALL THREE townies must avoid hitting each other, the worst case scenario for a mini game.

Better to have 2 scums and 4 townies, for an ever-so-slight margin of error. That way even if one townie makes a mistake, the other 3 can save the day.

Also, the scums would be able to murder one more time before the game is even over. You could force it down to 2 scums and 3 townies by delaying twice in a row, giving you that 50% chance of eliminating a mafia if the three of you guess correctly.

This is the toughest game, where it may be better to put your two shots together, a first lynch which has a 2/6 chance of hitting a scum and the second lynch which has a 50% chance, you have a combined total of 83% chance of hitting a scum with the two. The only issue is that the mafia will make it very difficult to get the right response, so it isn't as simple as random chance.

What No Lynch does do is it helps you immensely if the game isn't all basic townies versus 2 scums who know each other. People generally seem to agree that such a set-up is just about unbalanced, especially if the first lynch doesn't go well, then it's nearly impossible to win.

Other than that worst case scenario, which I don't think Subotan would set up for his first mini game that I've seen him host, I'd bet on the No Lynch option to reduce our bad options by one.

Does someone want to double check my numbers, though? most of these assume that you don't vote for yourself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ugh, you're all cowards.

In other news, I have decided that the competition of "Best British Butler" will be open to all butler characters. The winner is the butler who posts the most posts by the end of the game. Of course, you can't win if you're dead, so you have to be alive by the end of the game to win.

Posts the most posts?

Host, the one who boasts the most posts won't even be close. Here's a dose of reality, I post by the gross, and the competition I'll roast. They don't stand a chance of a ghost; I shall coast to victory and give them a toast.

[Centurion1]

uhhhhhhhhh trhis counts as a post as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

uhhhhhhhhh trhis counts as a post as well.

I think you should only give partial credit for it.

PS- this could easily turn into a spamfest so let's not and say we did.

[Thermal]

vote: no lynch

[Centurion1]

yeah ill try to avoid spamming