the most logical NapoleonTW review so far

[caravel]

Revolution: S:TW
Evolution: M:TW
Revolution: R:TW
Evolution: M2:TW
Revolution: E:TW
Evolution: N:TW

Hello,

No. NTW is not the "evolution", of ETW it is the "expansion". The difference is that it has been sold as a stand alone this time around. This is because CA do not want to put off potential customers that did/do not want to buy ETW.

The "evolution" title is yet to come (though of course it may be marketed as the "revolution").

Yohei

[Fisherking]

Lets hope the next is an evolution rather than a revolution.

I think they need something stable, playable, and solid from release rather than something ambitious, innovative, and broken.

[gollum]

It'll either be a WWI or RTW2 - but i'd bet on the WWI scenario. There is no reason why to throw away the expertise on gunpowder, cannons, hiding in buildings etc All these features point towards that way. If so, it would be certainly an evolution over ETW/NTW.

[Fisherking]

All of the polls go for Rome 2 of course.

I hope it is not WWI

I would be much happier with a Victorian or Colonial Period TW.

I know WWI is popular with a lot of people but the tactics and technologies of the period just leave me cold.

Throwing mass waves of men in suicide charges just doesn’t inspire me. Nor is sitting static until the tank is invented.

Oh and lest we forget, poison gas...a waist of time for the most part. Wouldn’t you love the models of gasmasks for horses and dogs?

I know of no way you could use infiltration tactics in a total war game. Which would defeat the point of the era.

I am sure loads of people just want to see airplanes and submarines.

I don’t see a good way to pull it off.

I could be wrong of course, but it could also be a goof that would dwarf what happened with ETW and I don’t know if they really want to risk something like that before they have another success.

[Tsavong]

Hello,

No. NTW is not the "evolution", of ETW it is the "expansion". The difference is that it has been sold as a stand alone this time around. This is because CA do not want to put off potential customers that did/do not want to buy ETW.

The "evolution" title is yet to come (though of course it may be marketed as the "revolution").

Possibly who knows. NTW is the most evolved expansion I can remember in total war. It also seemed cheaper than Empire when I got it.

All of the polls go for Rome 2 of course.

I hope it is not WWI

I hope they don't make a Rome 2, I did not get on too wall with Rome but the main reasion is a lot of people like Rome because of how it is or they like a mod on it but a Rome 2 would not be Rome it would be different in some way and I doubt it would be BI or something so I expect people would be disappointed, also we look back with rose tinted glasses.

But I don't think total war should to go WW1 or WW2 may be a game going from 1900 to 1950 but I don't think one can realy look at WW2 with out looking at WW1 as I think both conflicts are related. There are how ever there are a lot of World War games Total War should probably go else were for the next game. I would like to see something in the east.

[gollum]

In my view both are inevitable.

Jack Lusted hinted that the work on artillery for ETW/NTW will be used further and judging from the polls for the next TW that CA gave out sometime during teh latest stages of ETW WW1 will be the choice and not the Victorian or Colonial periods.

As for R2, it is such a strong period in terms of fanbase and the precedent that CA has with it, that from a marketing perspective it is simply too good an option to discard. I am very firmly convinced that CA will do sooner or later R2.

[NimitsTexan]

All of the polls go for Rome 2 of course.

I hope it is not WWI

I would be much happier with a Victorian or Colonial Period TW.

I know WWI is popular with a lot of people but the tactics and technologies of the period just leave me cold.

Throwing mass waves of men in suicide charges just doesn’t inspire me. Nor is sitting static until the tank is invented.

Oh and lest we forget, poison gas...a waist of time for the most part. Wouldn’t you love the models of gasmasks for horses and dogs?

I know of no way you could use infiltration tactics in a total war game. Which would defeat the point of the era.

I am sure loads of people just want to see airplanes and submarines.

I don’t see a good way to pull it off.

I could be wrong of course, but it could also be a goof that would dwarf what happened with ETW and I don’t know if they really want to risk something like that before they have another success.

This. The things that made WWI unique (at the time) as a war: millions of men armies, continuous front, large scale trench warefare, static lines, planes, tanks, infiltration tactics just do not translate well into a TW engine. RTW2 or some sort of Victorian-Era game would be a much, much, better use of the engine than WWI. I have a feeling that a TW:WWI would be a horrible disaster.

[antisocialmunky]

Atleast the AI would be pretty good as all it would do is throw a million doods in a single direction.

An interesting feature would be the ability to use airplanes to survery battlefields and then having to preset your massive pre-attack artillery barrages before you actually initiate the assaults.

[Madoushi]

I think American Civil War would come before any kind os 20th century game, especially since it would play to the somewhat Avalon Hill-ish precendent (though I think Napoleon in Russia came after Gettysburg, I didn't really play much Avalon Hill...)

I doubt I'd buy a purely WWI TW, I'd buy Rome 2 in a heartbeat.

[pevergreen]

Hello,

No. NTW is not the "evolution", of ETW it is the "expansion". The difference is that it has been sold as a stand alone this time around. This is because CA do not want to put off potential customers that did/do not want to buy ETW.

Right, because the quote in my post is not from a proper preview of the game, and Kieran is definately not directly quoted saying this:

"The way that Total War development works is we do a kind of evolution-revolution cycle. We create revolutionary technology for one title - in this case Empire, which had a brand new engine written from the ground up - and all new AI. Then, for the next game, we take that technology and evolve it - in this case with Napoleon. We've taken everything we've achieved with Empire and Empire's engine and just pushed it to the limit. Napoleon is essentially the culmination of what we wanted to do with Empire, given the time to take it further."

I dont see how it can be clearer than that.

[gollum]

I personally don't believe what Kieran says (in general not just this), and also i avoid reading his posts and interviews, listening to his interviews,presentations etc in video or otherwise.

[antisocialmunky]

Indeed, the game will mix and match different body parts to make soldiers look individual and unique, with 64 different faces on offer even on the very lowest settings.

Probably you can, we judt don't have access yet...

[caravel]

Right, because the quote in my post is not from a proper preview of the game, and Kieran is definately not directly quoted saying this:

I dont see how it can be clearer than that.

It's called marketing young man, marketing...

Yohei