that's some wierd stuff.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 01:40

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

the people along the coast a mix of Arabs, settlers from other areas, and berbers. the desert is purely Berber territory. the reason that is so is because the Arabs settled in the cities after they had conquered them. they even founded a few: Qayruwan, in Tunis, and Tunis city itself, are both Arab in origin. they also settled in Lybia, Tunis, morocco, Mauritania, western sahara, and even Spain, siciliy, and malta (hence the language known as maltese). but it is worth pointing out that they were never the majority-just a minority that influenced their neighbors.

as a result, Algerians do speak arabic-allbeit a dialect that is unintelligeable to me (my dialect is a levantine one).

They also have a lot of french loanwords, which of course makes it more complicated to understand.
BTW you can trace your linage to the middle ages?! You're a lucky one.

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:05

not as strange as dreaming you are playing a level in Crysis then all of a sudden all the KPA enemies turn into zombies that wont die.
freaky stuff.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:09

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

not as strange as dreaming you are playing a level in Crysis then all of a sudden all the KPA enemies turn into zombies that wont die.
freaky stuff.

Ja det låter bra underligt det du.

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:18

english?

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:22

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

english?

Oh sorry, I thought you were swedish because of your sig.

I basically said that I agreed that your dream was trippy

**Hooahguy** · 03-05-2010, 02:25

nope, not swedish, i just play Sweden in ETW-DM.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 02:27

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

nope, not swedish, i just play Sweden in ETW-DM.

Okay.

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2010, 05:58

Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons

They also have a lot of french loanwords, which of course makes it more complicated to understand.
BTW you can trace your linage to the middle ages?! You're a lucky one.

yes and no- yes, I can't understnd a word out of anyone west of Benghazi (and vice versa). and between the nile and Benghazi, its kinda hard to understand. Maltese is in fact easier to understand than western arabic dialects. but no, its not because of french; my dialect has many french words, as does Algerian (grafe/grafa, salon, telefon, tilfesion, taxi, beskalet*, balkone , etc, all came from french. yes, even taxi). its actually because of berber influence. in berber languages, they tend to shorten, or drop some vowels in arabic, so ikbeer (big) in leventine is kbir in moroccan. the results can be a bit messy...

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

*from french for bicycle.

@ Hooahguy: woe, that's even stranger stuff.

**Samurai Waki** · 03-05-2010, 06:41

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

The furthest back I could trace my origins was to some German farmers in the Ukraine, and to some northern irish dissidents sick of being blow'd up by the IRA. I'd say you're pretty lucky that you even have an idea of your origins.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 13:34

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

yes and no- yes, I can't understnd a word out of anyone west of Benghazi (and vice versa). and between the nile and Benghazi, its kinda hard to understand. Maltese is in fact easier to understand than western arabic dialects. but no, its not because of french; my dialect has many french words, as does Algerian (grafe/grafa, salon, telefon, tilfesion, taxi, beskalet*, balkone , etc, all came from french. yes, even taxi). its actually because of berber influence. in berber languages, they tend to shorten, or drop some vowels in arabic, so ikbeer (big) in leventine is kbir in moroccan. the results can be a bit messy...

as to my medieval origins: I believe them, but I lack the evidence to be certain. what they do say is however in line with the rest of my family history that I have evidence for: a religious/political role in Ottoman times, pro-caliphate/PLO pamphleteers (like my distant relative, abd al-qadeem zallum), the strong military ideals (chivalry, honor, etc), to today. but if I do have eivdence to confirm my family stories, I'm gonna be real impressed, for as you say, few people can trace their lineage 900 years back.

*from french for bicycle.

@ Hooahguy: woe, that's even stranger stuff.

Ah.. Interesting, I thought the Algeria had more french loanwords due to being colonized by the french, turns out it wasn't like that.

**Ibrahim** · 03-05-2010, 21:46

Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons

Ah.. Interesting, I thought the Algeria had more french loanwords due to being colonized by the french, turns out it wasn't like that.

it does, but as I said, it itself is not a hinderence, as many of these words are also in levantine arabic. its mostly-as I said-down to pronunciation.

**Arthur, king of the Britons** · 03-05-2010, 22:01

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

it does, but as I said, it itself is not a hinderence, as many of these words are also in levantine arabic. its mostly-as I said-down to pronunciation.

Alright.

**Centurion1** · 03-05-2010, 22:36

among other things (many other things) my father says we are normans from 1066 and when the queen tries to knight him he will turn her down to show support for his irish brethern.

yes....... hes joking we are Norman-French however.

as well as Croatian, Greek, Chinese, Russian, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English, Lithuanian, "Russian Jewish" Canadian (falls with french really) i think thats everything........

yeah americas a melting pot alrighty.

i identify with only a few of those places though as other amounts are minuscule. It annoys me when so many americans wonder whether they were royalty in Europe. No dumb *** you would never have come to america if you were rich. The closest we are to famous is my fathers delusions and the likelihood of being a second son of some petty lord in Ireland (if my name is right)

i am proud of my heritage.