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Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
i just joined the twc for mafia and i want to say the gameroom is far superior here. it is a ghost town there. i cant believe how empty i found one game to join.
I also noticed a downfall of participants... I would say it is because of 2 things:
1. The TW serie just does not hold up... Shogun was great, medieval quite ok, rome a disaster untill patched... Then they still havent sorted problems with medieval 2 and dont even get me STARTED on empire...
Think medieval 2 was the killer, they launched a game with an inactive AI... Most people had 15min of fun surrounding opposite army with cannons before moving on to games that cared about their customers and had some beta-testers (note that major bugs are still not fixed).
2. That is why the forum has lost life cause of the GAME SERIES it represents. Another point is that the forum in itself has scared away a lot of members. Either members gets banned for being too immature, or they get banned for being to educated (actually arguing against mainstream). This, at least, is my oppinion.
This leaves a very small bunch of mediocre people, who others have no interest in and who are irrelevant to each other.
Aswell as some KICK ASS people in the very secluded sections, only, new members doesnt even know about them...
As it is now, we lose 2-3 for every 1 we get.
I certainly know were you are coming from Kadagar_AV, but if you notice carefully you'll see that RTW (and to a lesser extent M2) were very much embraced by the org: the Coloseum has nearly 100k posts as much as the Main hall and the Citadel, not to mention the very very frequented RTW modding sections.
They (RTW/M2) most certainly though as you say carried a trend that didn't sit well with the core org members and this was shown finally with ETW. The level of participation for ETW was phenomenal the first month of release; at times 100+ people were hanging around the Parliament. However as the release fever started to recess and the flaws of the game became more and more obvious particiaption droped to quite low levels for a new tw game.
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Other reasons that weren't mentioned about geting new members in the org, are that: a) its more difficult to achieve membership status than other forums b) there is a strong line from forum leaders/old members, and c) there is uniformity of appearance.
In fact b) and c) co-operate.
I think that for new/younger members, its far harder to remain interested in the org. Of course its true that these very same points constitute the reasons why for the org's greatest strengths, ie more civilised environment, more deep level of conversation and generally far more tidy behaviour and looks.
However, perhsp forum leaders and the admin, may want to think about putting some amount of water to their wine, as these reasons could potentially be driving away young/new members by appearing as a barrier.
At the same time, as new membership rates fall, forum leaders (moderators/regulars/senior members) become more and more dominant and the place less dynamic and even less accessible.
Perhaps its time to reconsider many of these points, assuming of course that the leaders/admin judge it good to change the status quo.
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Since v3.3 the Caravel Mod includes customised campaigns for huge and default unit settings
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One thing to consider is that about 1/5th of the active membership use the invisible mode. That makes the forum look more empty. But in the end my opinion is that its up to us members to try and make the forum more interesting and easy to enter by contributing positively to those areas where we frequent. Along the lines: "What can you do to Org, instead of what Org can do to you" .
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
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