Beefdom will rise once more

**Centurion1** · 03-06-2010, 03:34

isnt three mafia a small number for a large game? im intrigued to sayt he least, my balancing attempts are novice

**Beefy187** · 03-06-2010, 06:15

Perhaps. But since there is no detective or special roles, mafia not revealed upon death and God Father being able to choose his grunts (Better team work and understanding of the team tactics) the mafia has a decent chance of winning.

Would still be tough for the mafia but we came pretty close in God Father III which had the similar set up.

**Secura** · 03-06-2010, 11:29

So what sort of numbers are you looking at? Thirty? Forty? I'm guessing relatively high numbers, because otherwise you could have your Dictator simply swaying every single vote without challenge. I guess that might be the point though? :3

I like the idea of a game that doesn't have any special roles, it's going to require alot more thinking and deduction than simply going "lol investigate Pizza plz nite 1". The mafia is going to have a difficult time of it for sure, but this should even things up in their favour as you've already stated.

Just a question about the Grunts though; if the Godfather loses them both, is he able to recruit more? It seems as though he's heavily neutered if they both die, that's all.

I like the look of this, at any rate, and hopefully should have cleared up my games to commit to it. :3

**Centurion1** · 03-06-2010, 16:31

Perhaps. But since there is no detective or special roles, mafia not revealed upon death and God Father being able to choose his grunts (Better team work and understanding of the team tactics) the mafia has a decent chance of winning.

Would still be tough for the mafia but we came pretty close in God Father III which had the similar set up.

true being able to choose your friends and also no special townies drastically changes things

**Beefy187** · 03-07-2010, 00:59

Originally Posted by Secura

So what sort of numbers are you looking at? Thirty? Forty? I'm guessing relatively high numbers, because otherwise you could have your Dictator simply swaying every single vote without challenge. I guess that might be the point though? :3

I like the idea of a game that doesn't have any special roles, it's going to require alot more thinking and deduction than simply going "lol investigate Pizza plz nite 1". The mafia is going to have a difficult time of it for sure, but this should even things up in their favour as you've already stated.

Just a question about the Grunts though; if the Godfather loses them both, is he able to recruit more? It seems as though he's heavily neutered if they both die, that's all.

I like the look of this, at any rate, and hopefully should have cleared up my games to commit to it. :3

I always enjoy a bit of classical mafia from time to times.

Once the God Father loses both grunts, he will be able to start killing him self. But he won't be able to recruit more.

Originally Posted by Centurion1

true being able to choose your friends and also no special townies drastically changes things

Indeed. We could have Tincow, Sasaki and Andres all on the same team. I tremble in fear.

**Centurion1** · 03-07-2010, 02:15

Once the God Father loses both grunts, he will be able to start killing him self. But he won't be able to recruit more.

sort of like capo with the dons on a smaller scale.

**Beefy187** · 03-07-2010, 02:36

Precisely.

By the way, responding to Securas question about number of players, I'm hoping for over 40 players but I never had that much luck in the past. So I'll be satisfied with what ever number I'll get. If I get below the number, I'll just tweak the consulate/dictator and it will all be fine.

**Thermal** · 03-07-2010, 03:15

Originally Posted by Centurion1

isnt three mafia a small number for a large game? im intrigued to sayt he least, my balancing attempts are novice

I'm no expert either, but I think three should be fine, I'm assuming mafia will be able to work together, which would give them some massive perks.

I've tried 3 mafia in a smaller game that has some similar features, I couldn't begin to tell you how mafia biased it is lol.

I trust beefy to make it amazing anyway

**White_eyes:D** · 03-07-2010, 20:27

The Godfather 3.....good times, good times

Went 8 rounds with only 1 kill.....Mafia are kinda spoiled whenever I look back at that game.

This looks good but try to get the rules straight(I didn't go to jail and me and Yoyoma had a BIG fallout that was getting pretty tense)....I remember the first Beefdom game...fun but was total chaos

**Beefy187** · 03-08-2010, 00:27

Haha yea. I will try to get all the rules clearer so everyone knows exactly whats going on.
I'm glad everyone enjoyed Noble Sons I even though it was a total failure