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**ajaxfetish** · 03-08-2010, 01:11

Originally Posted by Subotan

Of course, in Utah, you call jelly "Jell-o". So who knows what you might call soft drinks.

I'm pretty sure that's an America thing, not just a Utah thing. I assume you're referring to this when you say jelly? What do you call this?

Ajax

**Subotan** · 03-08-2010, 01:17

Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

I'm pretty sure that's an America thing, not just a Utah thing. I assume you're referring to this when you say jelly? What do you call this?

Ajax

The first one is jelly, and the second is jam. So what do you use the word jam to describe then?

**ajaxfetish** · 03-08-2010, 01:23

Originally Posted by Subotan

So what do you use the word jam to describe then?

This, of course!

(Yeah, there's really never been a clear distinction for me between what we call jams and what we call jellies. Some things are generally called jelly (I've never heard of a grape jam or apple jam) while others are always jams (I've similarly never heard of a raspberry jelly). Jello's one of those brand names like kleenex or bandaid that have come to mean the item rather than the brand here in the U.S. Calling jello a jelly just sounds really odd to me)

p.s. My wife informs me that jam has seeds or pulp, while jelly is made out of the juice and so doesn't have any chunkiness or texture to it.

Ajax

**Subotan** · 03-08-2010, 09:58

Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

This, of course!

(Yeah, there's really never been a clear distinction for me between what we call jams and what we call jellies. Some things are generally called jelly (I've never heard of a grape jam or apple jam) while others are always jams (I've similarly never heard of a raspberry jelly). Jello's one of those brand names like kleenex or bandaid that have come to mean the item rather than the brand here in the U.S. Calling jello a jelly just sounds really odd to me)

p.s. My wife informs me that jam has seeds or pulp, while jelly is made out of the juice and so doesn't have any chunkiness or texture to it.

Ajax

Hm, interesting. I thought when looking at your "jelly" that it looked a bit smooth to be called jam. But then, pretty much all jam has fruit pieces or pips in it over here.

**Centurion1** · 03-08-2010, 22:47

6'1, 207 lbs. That's 1.85 meter. 94 kilogram.

Me, I am 6'0 / 1.83. I weigh 160 lbs / 73. I'm considered normal, if perhaps, how shall I put it, slightly lacking the beef for rugby or some such.

exactly im a american football player and im not fat either. im right fast running 40 yard dash in 4.75 seconds (last i checked) and the mile in 6:013 minutes. 160 pounds on my frame (broad shoulders, thickish neck) would look like im starving. i can see may 180 for a minimum weight 9and once i stop lifting and join the military ill probably hit that weight) but i dislike when a stupid formula says im bloody obese.

im not fat i have a 34-5 waist. though we will see now that basketball is over.

**naut** · 03-09-2010, 04:15

Originally Posted by Centurion1

exactly im a american football player and im not fat either. im right fast running 40 yard dash in 4.75 seconds (last i checked) and the mile in 6:013 minutes. 160 pounds on my frame (broad shoulders, thickish neck) would look like im starving. i can see may 180 for a minimum weight 9and once i stop lifting and join the military ill probably hit that weight) but i dislike when a stupid formula says im bloody obese.

im not fat i have a 34-5 waist. though we will see now that basketball is over.

Fat % is key. BMI and such may say you are overweight, but it doesn't take into account muscle mass vs fat mass.

**HoreTore** · 03-09-2010, 08:08

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Fat % is key. BMI and such may say you are overweight, but it doesn't take into account muscle mass vs fat mass.

BMI is a wonderful tool to use in statistics over large populations.

It's catastrophic when applied on an individual level.

**Myrddraal** · 03-12-2010, 16:16

p.s. My wife informs me that jam has seeds or pulp, while jelly is made out of the juice and so doesn't have any chunkiness or texture to it.

I think that's pretty much right. Jelly is originally a liquid which is made to 'set'. This doesn't have to be fruit juice, it can also be meat juice (as in the jelly you get around pate). Jam is just mushed up fruit. It doesn't have a solid consistency. You can cut jelly, but cutting jam is a bit like cutting water. That's my understanding anyway.