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    The BBC is the world's best broadcaster by far.

    Don't destroy this prized British institution, the envy of the world, over 'liberal media bias' hysteria that crossed the Atlantic via aggresive media moguls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    The BBC is the world's best broadcaster by far.

    Don't destroy this prized British institution, the envy of the world, over 'liberal media bias' hysteria that crossed the Atlantic via aggresive media moguls.
    The BBC is actually famously conservative, in the British tradition. The British tradition of conservatism isn't so much an accepted range of thinking a la a mos maiorum, but an accepted approach to thinking and doing. Nothing very fast, but don't shy away from different things. That's why the paradigm-breaking premiership of Thatcher was very unconservative, while the decades-long campaign to end slavery was in the conservative tradition. The BBC is in the latter school. Conservative does not equal reactionary.

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    The term 'Reithianism' describes certain principles of broadcasting associated with Lord Reith. These include an equal consideration of all viewpoints, probity, universality and a commitment to public service. It can be distinguished from the free-market approach to broadcasting, where programming aims to attract the largest audiences or advertising revenues, ahead of - and, in practice, often contrary to - any artistic merit, impartiality, educative or entertainment values, that a programme may have.

    Reith summarized the BBC's purpose in three words: educate, inform, entertain; this remains part of the organisation's mission statement to this day.

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    I think the BBC has a distinctly biased "David Cameron-esque" lean to it. PC, but stodgy. Not a Tory, but clearly no Labour. Add a sprinkle of Liberal for flavouring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    The BBC is actually famously conservative, in the British tradition. The British tradition of conservatism isn't so much an accepted range of thinking a la a mos maiorum, but an accepted approach to thinking and doing. Nothing very fast, but don't shy away from different things. That's why the paradigm-breaking premiership of Thatcher was very unconservative, while the decades-long campaign to end slavery was in the conservative tradition. The BBC is in the latter school. Conservative does not equal reactionary.

    John Reith

    The term 'Reithianism' describes certain principles of broadcasting associated with Lord Reith. These include an equal consideration of all viewpoints, probity, universality and a commitment to public service. It can be distinguished from the free-market approach to broadcasting, where programming aims to attract the largest audiences or advertising revenues, ahead of - and, in practice, often contrary to - any artistic merit, impartiality, educative or entertainment values, that a programme may have.

    Reith summarized the BBC's purpose in three words: educate, inform, entertain; this remains part of the organisation's mission statement to this day.
    that may be how it started, that is not how it is now.

    show me that report into BBC bias and i'll be willing to concede the point, as long as they keep it locked up I won't.
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    I think that, considering the BBC gets accused by both right and left wingers of being too biasied to the other side, shows it is infact pretty neutral (by UK standards).


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    I think that, considering the BBC gets accused by both right and left wingers of being too biasied to the other side, shows it is infact pretty neutral (by UK standards).
    Indeed. It definitely isn't left-wing paradise, it gets most of its foreign policy news for instance from the government propaganda machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    The point is you have no choice. I enjoy the BBC's educational programs but i would disagree the news is actually neutral. The one good thing about foreign news is it does alot less local and national stuff so i can see what going on in the world. It has to be an act of god for the news here to cover anything beyond the US's borders.
    How is it biased? Can you give some examples?

    I do remember seeing in America some news program called "WORLD NEWS", that only had pieces about America.

    The BBC is the world's best broadcaster by far.

    Don't destroy this prized British institution, the envy of the world, over 'liberal media bias' hysteria that crossed the Atlantic via aggresive media moguls.
    I notice how News Corp likes to use the arguments "Ooh help us! The mighty state is crowding us out! We're helpless in the face of such mighty government muscle!" and "Come on, the state is useless. The private sector is far better at delivering what the public wants." simultaneously.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    I think that, considering the BBC gets accused by both right and left wingers of being too biasied to the other side, shows it is infact pretty neutral (by UK standards).
    During the Thatcher years, the Labour Party and especially Militant accused the BBC of being too Tory.
    Considering that the BBC has a natural closer fit with the Labour Party than the Conservative Party, I think the BBC does very well to treat both sides fairly (As well as the Libdems, lol)

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    So.... The BBC is:

    - Biased against Israel
    - Biased towards supporting the war in Iraq
    - Racist towards indians
    - Politically correct because they discuss whether burning holy books is comedy and if headscarfs are okay
    - And a bunch of other stuff...

    Just how is that "liberal bias"? How many liberals supported the war in Iraq? How many liberals would need a discussion to decide whether people can dress themselves as they please?

    Not to mention that your last source is heavily biased as well, against the bbc! An internal report is internal, it's not secret.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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