Whats happened to this forum?

**caravel** · 03-16-2010, 15:03

Originally Posted by pevergreen

On defending them: I've been against them as much as I've agreed with them.

On that occasion your opinions/conclusions were based solely on hearsay and on the thread content - that is to say that you were not in possession of the "full facts" as it were.

Yohei

**pevergreen** · 03-16-2010, 16:06

Originally Posted by Yohei

On that occasion your opinions/conclusions were based solely on hearsay and on the thread content - that is to say that you were not in possession of the "full facts" as it were.

Yohei

What occasion. Its not like theres one on each side of the tallyboard.

gollum: I'm happy to drop it.

**gollum** · 03-16-2010, 16:08

**Graphic** · 03-19-2010, 13:37

I greatly enjoyed this forum back in the day. I used to only ever go to TWC to download Rome Total Realism. This was the only place I went to from the very beginning. I remember reading Frogbeastegg's (sp) Shogun and MTW guides (I still use some of the tactics to this very day) and downloading all the best MTW mods here. After I got burnt out on M2TW: Kingdoms I didn't visit any TW forums until the pre-release hype for ETW started to kick into overdive, and then I came back to the Org only to discover tumble weeds.

I make most of my TW posts at TWC these but I wish I didn't have to. For a forum about video games, it's remarkable how few people actually want to talk about the gameplay in the game discussion sections. Honestly, 90% of the people there are complete morons.

The main camps are:

Deluded, irrational nationalists. They somehow manage to twist any thread, no matter how harmless the topic may seem, into a nationalistic pissing match. The political section of TWC is completely unbearable but it'd be fine if it just stayed there, but this crap seeps into every section of the board.
Flag Nazis a.k.a. Button Nazis. These are the guys who's only measuring stick for how good or poor the games are is how accurate the uniforms and flags are. Every missing or extra button on a jacket, every surplus strand of hair on a bearskin hat, every misplaced pixel on a flag are all unforgivable sacrileges that completely destroy their enjoyment of the game. A related camp are the armchair generals who nitpick the games looking for anything that isn't exactly like history (OMG, you mean regiments didn't actually include 160 people?), using quick skims of wikipedia in order to come off as highly knowledgeable military historians.
Pre-teens and teenagers. Everyone knows what these people do to forums, so I won't elaborate except to say I found it hilarious that so many 13-year-olds claimed to be ripped off, cheated, and insulted as a consumer (in the height of the outrage over ETW) when they all got their mommy to buy the game for them or pirated it.

Sorry if that's way off topic but I had to get that rant off my chest (that would obviously get deleted on TWC itself). It's just not that good, but its the fastest way to get my TW discussion fix today.

I really miss this place. Everyone knows what the Org is, so there's got to be a way to pump some life back into this place. Maybe all the old Org ex-pats at TWC can start a boycott?

**Andres** · 03-19-2010, 13:55

I think we must be careful not to become too pessimistic.

Apparently, the .Org audience and E:TW didn't match very well. It happens. Can't force one to love a game he doesn't like

However, I'm still a proud member of this community. We have some real gems at this place, wonderful people who can debate about a wide range of subjects in an intelligent, civilised and mature way. There's a lot of potential at this place and pessimism will get us nowhere. In fact, exaggerated pessimism will eventually lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy.

**gollum** · 03-19-2010, 14:14

Indeed pessimism can be fatal, and it should be avoided.

However so can be inaction in the face of factual signs, inability or indifference to read factual signs and wrong choices as to how to react to challenges and the changing times - in certain instances. It is in light of these that some, in good will and as loving members of the org, speak.

**Andres** · 03-19-2010, 14:25

Originally Posted by gollum

Indeed pessimism can be fatal, and it should be avoided.

However so can be inaction in the face of factual signs, inability or indifference to read factual signs and wrong choices as to how to react to challenges and the changing times - in certain instances. It is in light of these that some, in good will and as loving members of the org, speak.

Ah dear gollum, but for all our disagreement about .Org policy concerning MP, I really appreciate your insights, contributions, opinions and concerns.

You're one of those gems I was talking about