Mafia IX: Triumph of the Mafia [Concluded]

[shlin28]

Vote: shlin

He told me in a PM that he was mafia.

I trusted you!

With such a solid case against me, I guess I have no choice but to Vote: shlin28 now

PS: Fellow Mafioso X, take down Sasaki!

[Subotan]

An analysis of the kill write-ups in a game with nothing but two mafia is nothing but a distraction. Plus you are going after an easy target (atpg) with shoddy evidence gussied up to look more important than it is.

I agree. Voting data is useful in games where we can get confirmations about the lynchee's guilt, but in a game such as this where the mafia have way more information than we do, the mafia are able to hide in the voting records with ease.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't have teh count, but did shlin self vote when someone else was ahead? If so he needs to die.

Not o fan of thermals accusation either, quite scummy.

[Secura]

The current voting tally is as follows:

shlin28: 5 - Sasaki Kojiro, TinCow, Askthepizzaguy, Captain Blackadder, shlin28
Methos: 2 - Psychonaut, Ibn-Khaldun
Askthepizzaguy: 1 - Thermal Mercury
Thermal Mercury: 1 - woad&fangs
woad&fangs: 1 - Methos

Why so many votes on shlin28? Is there something I've missed again? >.<

[Thermal]

vote: thermal mercury An analysis of the kill write-ups in a game with nothing but two mafia is nothing but a distraction. Plus you are going after an easy target (atpg) with shoddy evidence gussied up to look more important than it is.

People are more than capable of making there own decisions, from what sparse information we have (write ups aside) ATPG is the only player who has consistantly bandwagonned the person who ends up being lynched, sneaking in when a good reason to lynch the person has supposedly appeared.

[Joooray]

People are more than capable of making there own decisions, from what sparse information we have (write ups aside) ATPG is the only player who has consistantly bandwagonned the person who ends up being lynched, sneaking in when a good reason to lynch the person has supposedly appeared.

I didn't like your reasoning when you accused me, I don't like your reasoning now. So Vote: Thermal Mercury.

[Thermal]

I didn't like your reasoning when you accused me

I wonder why

[Methos]

Why so many votes on shlin28? Is there something I've missed again? >.<

Because supposedly Shin pm'ed TinCow stating he was mafia. Why he would do that is my question. Seems rather stupid. Which brings the question of whether its legit, or Shin wants out of the game, or TinCow lied and Shin is playing along because he doesn't care. Either way, it looks like our best option is Unvote: Woad&Fangs; Vote: Shin.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

HOS:Methos

[Secura]

Which brings the question of whether its legit, or Shin wants out of the game, or TinCow lied and Shin is playing along because he doesn't care.

This is actually a plausible analysis though, Sasaki.

When I mulled over the thread thus far, I noticed a post from the host with the most that the mafia are able to kill two people each night regardless of whether one of the mafiosi is dead. It could be a clever ploy from TinCow and shlin28; TinCow reveals his partner as mafia thus endearing himself to town and ensuring he can slip under the radar a bit. This would correlate with various pieces of advice I have recieved via PM about TinCow, in the very least, and it's suspicious whichever way you look at it that he would make these claims of a PM conversation.

I'm getting major Admiral Ackbar feelings here though. :/

FoS: TinCow

[Beskar]

Vote: Shlin28

Well if he is going to be as helpful as a chocolate teapot with self voting, it shows he is willing to die. It would be better than killing a townie who wants to actually play and track down the mafia. Also the self-vote was WIFOM for "I am a mafia".

[Sasaki Kojiro]

TinCow voted shlin because I did, and made up a reason. Shlin realized that, and joked along with it. "with such a solid case against me" etc. That is obviously what happened. Methos suggests that it is either legit, or that tincow lied. In both cases he thinks it's best to vote shlin.

TinCow reveals his partner as mafia thus endearing himself to town and ensuring he can slip under the radar a bit.

This makes NO sense because mafia aren't revealed upon death, and his accusation was not at all serious. If you had "mulled over the thread" and "noticed a post from the host" that said the mafia still get two kills you would know that.

and it's suspicious whichever way you look at it that he would make these claims of a PM conversation.

You should be very familiar with townies faking a pm claim, beskar went all out with it in Shadow fort, TinCow is obvious not, there are even people accusing him of hiding behind joke votes

I'm getting major Admiral Ackbar feelings here though. :/

No you aren't, this is fake emotion.

You still aren't voting for anyone.

DIE MAFIA DIE

UNVOTE, VOTE:SECURA

[Renata]

TM's logic isn't completely horrible; in fact, I'd have thought ATPG would kind of appreciate it. It's maybe a little premature, but hey, we need something to talk about. If he weren't trying to apply it to the guy who insists he has to be lynched eventually anyway, then I'd be all for it. (As as aside, though, how DO we get to do that, hmm? If the mere suggestion is scummy? Do you want to set a date yourself, pizza? :D )

vote: Ibn-Khaldun for a few vaguely scummy posts and for avoiding bandwagons roughly as persistently as ATPG has ridden them.

[Renata]

Vote: Shlin28

Well if he is going to be as helpful as a chocolate teapot with self voting, it shows he is willing to die. It would be better than killing a townie who wants to actually play and track down the mafia. Also the self-vote was WIFOM for "I am a mafia".

And we all know those sneaky mafia go in for dangerous WIFOM every day of the week and twice on Sundays. You know better than that Beskar.

[Renata]

Double post; I'll use it to say I think Sasaki's reasoning on both Methos and Secura is pretty good. How much time left in the day?

[Beskar]

You should be very familiar with townies faking a pm claim, beskar went all out with it in Shadow fort, TinCow is obvious not, there are even people accusing him of hiding behind joke votes

I didn't fake them. That really was a PM between me and atheotes.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I do get the impression that Ibn has quieted a lot since he was almost lynched.

[Methos]

HOS:Methos

HOS? Hint of Suspicion?

This makes NO sense because mafia aren't revealed upon death, and his accusation was not at all serious. If you had "mulled over the thread" and "noticed a post from the host" that said the mafia still get two kills you would know that.

For someone who appears to pay attention to the thread, you seem to have failed to notice that some of the updates have stated, "and across town", implying that there are, or were, two mafia. We can also see a difference in how kills are done, so in a way, we are being told whether we lynched a mafia or not.

I'm rather embarrassed to say it, but I didn't realize Tincow was joking.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hand of suspicion

For someone who appears to pay attention to the thread, you seem to have failed to notice that some of the updates have stated, "and across town", implying that there are, or were, two mafia. We can also see a difference in how kills are done, so in a way, we are being told whether we lynched a mafia or not.

Yes, there are two mafia in GH's games. But that doesn't mean we know when we've killed one, we never do, they can change how the kills are done if they want to.

I see you are defending Secura

[Secura]

No you aren't, this is fake emotion.

Alright, seriously, how the Dickens can you tell what someone is thinking or feeling from a collection of pixels upon your screen? I have a feeling that there's some sort of trap here, you have no means to refute these feelings because you're thousands of miles away and not face-to-face. So please, do not cast aspersions on what I may or may not be feeling when you have absolutely no idea.

You still aren't voting for anyone.

Because I feel the bandwagon on Shlin is quite weak, in all honesty, and I don't have any inclinations as to where to vote. I'm not one to simply throw a vote on someone randomly without sufficient reasoning, I had thought that much would have become clear by now.

DIE MAFIA DIE

UNVOTE, VOTE:SECURA

And, exactly as happened in Departed Dethy, you're jumping the mark again. Congratulations on being wrong, again.

I can see it's going to take a considerable amount of time for people to get used to the fact that this is how I play.

[White_eyes:D]

Secura is too transparent as mafia it seems....

[Secura]

Secura is too transparent as mafia it seems....

If that is how you feel, then throw your vote away and place it on me, you can have some of the humble pie when it's done too.

[White_eyes:D]

No, I am in a better place now

[Secura]

No, I am in a better place now

But... there's a dance (provided by Dr. Elliot Reed) that comes along with the cake too. :<

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Secura if you're town then you're going to continue to be scummy the whole game. Don't make illogical cases and avoid voting. It's a very useful style for mafia, how we would catch people if we couldn't vote them for making fake-looking cases?

I don't quite believe that you telling white_eyes he should vote was a ploy though, which it would have to be if you were mafia.

unvote:secura, vote:Ibn

[shlin28]

Reading back on the thread, I suppose I have been a little 'useless' to the Town... Probably because my 'skill' at Mafia fluctuates between utterly useless and flashes (or dim sparks, depending on your view) of inspiration. Regardless, I think it would be fair for you guys to lynch me, but I promise I will continue to post once I am dead - probably producing some more useful posts as I would not have to think of a reason to vote a random person.

[Secura]

Don't make illogical cases and avoid voting.

Well, it seems as though everything that I notice in a previous round is swept beneath the rug the next and nobody mentions hide-nor-hair of it again; what I pointed out was probably the only thing I could gleam from recent happenings aside of a shlin28 bandwagon I don't really understand. I'm not really used to throwing votes around with no reasoning behind it.

Anyway, bearing this in mind, I'll change my suspicion-seeking finger into vote: TinCow instead.

[White_eyes:D]

Only those killed by the Mafia can do that, shlin.....otherwise your just a possible scum protecting your buddy and making WIFOM... (sorry shlin)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

When did the pizza references in the writeups first appear? Was it after Ibn was almost lynched?

edit: no, nevermind :p

[Joooray]

When did the pizza references in the writeups first appear? Was it after Ibn was almost lynched?

edit: no, nevermind :p

I think this night was the second night it happened, not sure when Ibn was up for lynch though.