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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Again you are analyzing a un finished vote.
    Where did I analyze the vote in that post?

    What im talking about is general principle. Dont you understand that if someone else is controlling the vote. The only thing mafia has to do is to vote according to that vote and pick you guys up at certain points during nights.
    Not sure I follow.

    Your system gives nothing else to the town then giving a easy ride to the mafia.
    How?

    Mafia doesnt need to defend themselves in the thread and make possible mistakes, since it is not required under your voting block.
    Kage, in any game the mafia will get votes on them. It's not required that they defend themselves or make mistakes there, under someone else's spontaneous, one-round-only voting bloc either.

    There's no difference from the mafia's perspective which 3, 4, or 5 people are voting for them. Doesn't matter if it is the ATPG, Sasaki, Tincow trio or the Kage, pever, Thermal trio, all that matters is that they get voted. How that person is selected makes no difference either... could it be tarot card readings, a roll of the dice, an OMGUS vote, or a thorough analysis, all that matters is they get voted.

    I fail to see how different 3 people who vote together is from 3 people who don't always vote together, but did during one round. It means nothing to the mafia, and the result is the same.

    I cant see it as anything else then attempt for the three of you to stay alive in coordination for the rest of the game.
    That's not a likely way of accomplishing that. I'm a vote away from being lynched and many haven't voted yet. It also makes people, such as yourself, openly oppose and call for the heads of all three people involved. Nothing like running up to a wasp's nest and hitting it with a brick to get the wasps to not sting you.... it is just asking for trouble.

    Which is very scummy to begin with.
    Define "scummy".

    Since everyone and everything can be defined in all circumstances as potentially scummy, I chalk this word up to "I have no substantive argument, but I'll add this word to make it sound like I am serious".

    So lets just see how it will turn out in the end of the phase. I for one take very little pleasure playing this game, just so i cant use my own judgement
    Who is forcing you to play this way? No one. Are you playing this way? No. Did the bandwagon trio ever, at any time, control a significant fraction of the votes? Not really.

    I am baffled by how others are playing the game is impacting your own ability to play. I am not getting it.

    but rather give my own decisions to hands of others.
    The decision is mine every round to follow or take my own course. I was considering it until Sasaki voted for you. I might have gone for pevergreen instead, but I saw that I might have the votes on you this round if there were no other real candidates or objections. Never has free will been removed from the game. I see your objections to the style, I see that you think it is bad strategy. I don't understand why, but it is not necessary for me to. I do not understand how it is impacting your game experience at all, that seems to be an exaggeration or (since you're quite skilled at these games, I understand) a way of illiciting sympathy for your cause, and a rallying cry to destroy the evil bandwagoners. But taking you at face value, all I see is a difference of opinion but no substance behind it.

    Anyways. I can see we will talk in circles, and as it seems either my head will roll, or yours, or some dark horse candidate, I shake hands and wish you luck, and P.S. I am not mafia.
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    Vote Kagemusha

    What are the chances that atpg would be scum in both large games.


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    fos:captain blackadder

    unvote, vote:pevergreen

    Kage seems ok as far as I can tell, which makes pevergreen better

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    unvote; vote: pevergreen

    He speaks Hovitos.


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    And the wagon keeps rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'!!!

    unvote, vote: pevergreen
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    Vote: Tincow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Where did I analyze the vote in that post?



    Not sure I follow.



    How?



    Kage, in any game the mafia will get votes on them. It's not required that they defend themselves or make mistakes there, under someone else's spontaneous, one-round-only voting bloc either.

    There's no difference from the mafia's perspective which 3, 4, or 5 people are voting for them. Doesn't matter if it is the ATPG, Sasaki, Tincow trio or the Kage, pever, Thermal trio, all that matters is that they get voted. How that person is selected makes no difference either... could it be tarot card readings, a roll of the dice, an OMGUS vote, or a thorough analysis, all that matters is they get voted.

    I fail to see how different 3 people who vote together is from 3 people who don't always vote together, but did during one round. It means nothing to the mafia, and the result is the same.



    That's not a likely way of accomplishing that. I'm a vote away from being lynched and many haven't voted yet. It also makes people, such as yourself, openly oppose and call for the heads of all three people involved. Nothing like running up to a wasp's nest and hitting it with a brick to get the wasps to not sting you.... it is just asking for trouble.



    Define "scummy".

    Since everyone and everything can be defined in all circumstances as potentially scummy, I chalk this word up to "I have no substantive argument, but I'll add this word to make it sound like I am serious".



    Who is forcing you to play this way? No one. Are you playing this way? No. Did the bandwagon trio ever, at any time, control a significant fraction of the votes? Not really.

    I am baffled by how others are playing the game is impacting your own ability to play. I am not getting it.



    The decision is mine every round to follow or take my own course. I was considering it until Sasaki voted for you. I might have gone for pevergreen instead, but I saw that I might have the votes on you this round if there were no other real candidates or objections. Never has free will been removed from the game. I see your objections to the style, I see that you think it is bad strategy. I don't understand why, but it is not necessary for me to. I do not understand how it is impacting your game experience at all, that seems to be an exaggeration or (since you're quite skilled at these games, I understand) a way of illiciting sympathy for your cause, and a rallying cry to destroy the evil bandwagoners. But taking you at face value, all I see is a difference of opinion but no substance behind it.

    Anyways. I can see we will talk in circles, and as it seems either my head will roll, or yours, or some dark horse candidate, I shake hands and wish you luck, and P.S. I am not mafia.
    Ofcourse these are matters of opinion.As no one knows for certain the real scum expect themselves. And i agree to disagree with you on the strategy. This is all both of us can do. The others can decide who´s points seem more logical. Still the only larger thing in this game which is out of the ordinary is the change of tactics of your trio and untill i see anything more suspicious i will do my best to get you people lynched. P.S I am not mafia either.
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    Then you might notice I've just placed my head a lot closer to the chopping block. P-ever only has 3 votes, you had more.

    Here is your chance. If I am mafia, this is your opportunity to finish me.
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    Unvote and vote: Tincow
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    Puts TinCow into the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Puts TinCow into the lead.
    Yes it does. I am doing exactly what i told you i would.
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    I would weep at the loss of my beloved friend. What did TinCow ever do to you, besides threaten you with death?

    Actually, what is interesting now is that if TinCow wants to save himself, he might choose to vote for me. You clever, clever devil.


    Tally:

    TinCow: 4 (Joooray, Thermal, Ibn, Kage)
    pevergreen: 3 (Sasaki, TinCow, ATPG)
    Kage: 2 (Renata, Blackadder)
    ATPG: 2 (Mentos, Peverguy)
    Sasaki: 1 (Beefy187)
    Subotan: 1 (Reenk)
    Thermal: 1 (Psycho)
    Reenk: 1 (Subotan)
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 03-30-2010 at 14:03. Reason: Tally
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    Unvote: Subotan
    Vote: TinCow


    Kage and pever must live because they are better than most others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan
    Oooh, a delayed OMGUS...
    I didn't see it initially because I don't read the thread before voting (only skim it after). I voted you as soon as I saw though, doing the right thing.

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