EBNOM official discussion thread

[anubis88]

Yeah, come to think about it, August had a few wars with Meroe(which could use a new slot), so it would be nice as well. Any suggestion are welcomed

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Yeah, come to think about it, August had a few wars with Meroe(which could use a new slot), so it would be nice as well. Any suggestion are welcomed

Hmm if they are to be included as a faction then new portraits have to made as well.

Oh and the Judean Kingdom as well as the roman rebels are of the "emerging" faction and "rebel" faction type,I presume, if so than doesn't this mean that this mod would be BI- only? As the RTW exe doesn't have the "emerging" faction nor "rebel" factions.

note: I will probably not be able to help much with this mod, since my knowledge on both this period in history as well as modding is rather limited I'm afraid.

Oh and a lot of units can be reused from EB IIRC, limiting the work that has to be done somewhat.

[Cute Wolf]

Well, let's put that timeframe a bit earlier... at the middle roman republic, and diadochi are still strong.... as well as Germanic tribes allready ravages the north, and Nomadic incursions has grown harsher!!!!

Should we made.... *cough* year jump mod for EB
*. and prepared to random... "late game" situation...

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

I thought this might be useful, even though it doesn't start at the beginning of the principate, but rather in the post marian era.

[plutoboyz]

how about making EB for BI? BI time was pretty cool.

[anubis88]

Well at this point, it's all at the initial stages. Taking baby steps.

The problem IMHO is that in the post Marian era there are a lot of civil wars, and this would be difficult to implement in the TW engine. When the country was devided between Antony and Octavian, there was one battle that decided the whole thing, likewise at the begining, when the 2 fought the murderes of Caesar at Philippi. This is impossible to implement in the RTW engine IMHO, at least not without huge modding.

Yeah, i thought about using most of the EB skins, for the factions that still existed, + adding new ones. I guess some rosters- like Dacians, Sarmatians, Parthians, etc... could practicaly remain the same; we would just need to add a lot of Barbarian factions;
The Marcomanni were very strong at this point for one, likewise the Germanic alliance that appeared later under Ariminius. That's why i would like the mod to start sometimes during Avgustus's reign.

At this point IMHO it's easier to make sucha mod during history than the republican, for the reasons i stated above. It would indeed be unique of all mods. We could have legion camps, that were stabilized during augustus reign, also we have a lot of info about the economy, setting it for the future.

[Fluvius Camillus]

I don't think this will get from the ground. The ATB and Nusantara mods are already in progress and I think any skinner/modeller should join EB II instead.

Although coming up with concepts for a late period mod is fun.

~Fluvius

[anubis88]

Well think of it this way. Research for this mod couldn't hurt anyone, and if at some time few new skiners are found; that would be the only thing left to do. Even if nothing of this happens, i really think it could became a fine thread. There are definetly some people around here who are more familiar about this era then the start of EB.

Also, if there are people (which there certanly are) that don't quite measure up to the EBII team's standards they could work here in their spare time, training for proving themselves to the team

[jirisys]

Excuse me for my ignorance but... what's a late campaign (i think it's a campaign that stands after the imperial one, but i'm not sure)

~Jirisys (my name is Forrest)

[Fluvius Camillus]

My suggestions (suggestion A and B):

Suggestion A

Start Date: 171BC

101 years after the EB start.

Important men:
Perseus I of Macedonia (41 years old)
Antiochos IV Epiphanes (44 years old)
Ptolemaios VI Philometor (no regency yet, 15 years young, darn it).
Mithridates I of Parthia (approx 24 years old)
Marcus Porcius Cato Maior (63 years old)

Important upcoming historical events:
3rd Macedonian war
6th Syrian war
Parthia vs Baktria and a lot more expansion by Parthia

Suggested factions:
SenatusPopulesqueRomanus
Qarthadastim
Arche Seleukeia (under Antiochos IV Epiphanes)
Ptolemaioi (under Ptolemaios VI Philometor)
Antigonid Makedonia (under Perseus I of Macedon)
Arsacid Empire (under Mithridates I of Parthia)
Pontos (under Pharnaces I)
Pergamene Kingdom (under Eumenes II)
Baktria (under Eucratides I)

Roman Rebels (some time later, the first Slave revolt comes).

Here we can use a lot of units from EB I.

I will try to include the Celtic, Iberian, German, Getic/Thracian and Nomads later, I know far less of them than the factions listed above,

I will make suggestion B later.

Cheers!

I thought you guys wanted to change the date, enable all the reforms, and play around with factions' starting positions.

But doing an overhaul with completely new factions? You guys are insane.

Call me a pessimist but I think this will stay in the idea phase.

~Fluvius