StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You have chastised me for not voting before, basically, and on more than one occasion. In this instance, I genuinely cannot think of anyone to vote for.

Why have you voted for Flaxy?

The only time I remember is in Shadow Fort, when it was one of the main reasons I voted you. Regardless, not voting is scummy, because it says you aren't looking for anything suspicious, because that's not your goal.

In the post you quoted earlier I showed that TheFlax made up an excuse to make it look like he wasn't online. You skipped over that part. I don't see why that wouldn't be interesting to a town player looking for mafia.

[TheFlax]

1) sigurd had no orders from mafia at a certain point
2) you were online after that
3) He apparently received kill orders
4) You gave an excuse for why your name would be on the online list, acting like you weren't actually there
5) But it turns out you were

Therefore, we lynch you.

Fair enough.

Vote: TheFlax

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You also edited out the question where you asked me why I was voting for TheFlax. So you see the case, but still only defend yourself.

[Secura]

You also edited out the question where you asked me why I was voting for TheFlax. So you see the case, but still only defend yourself.

Well, I edited the question out because immediately afterwards I noticed a post that addressed your reasoning for voting as such, hence a pointless question. I am curious, however... how do you know TheFlax made up an excuse? I skipped over your claim because it was something that I had no active knowledge in; I wasn't aware that "being away for more than fifteen minutes removes you from the list", so there wasn't really anything for me to comment on.

If this was true though, why haven't more people voted TheFlax? I would at least expect moderators, who would have knowledge of stuff like that, to have voted for him; they haven't done so yet, so forgive me if I opt to take such an approach with a pinch of salt for the time being. I'd be keen to hear your explanation of his self-vote also.

Also, I don't need to defend myself, treacle; this wouldn't be the first time you've accused me of being scummy and have been incorrect.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, I edited the question out because immediately afterwards I noticed a post that addressed your reasoning for voting as such, hence a pointless question. I am curious, however... how do you know TheFlax made up an excuse? I skipped over your claim because it was something that I had no active knowledge in; I wasn't aware that "being away for more than fifteen minutes removes you from the list", so there wasn't really anything for me to comment on.

If this was true though, why haven't more people voted TheFlax? I would at least expect moderators, who would have knowledge of stuff like that, to have voted for him; they haven't done so yet, so forgive me if I opt to take such an approach with a pinch of salt for the time being. I'd be keen to hear your explanation of his self-vote also.

I don't care if you take it with a pinch of salt. I wonder why you didn't even comment. The others can be excused by saying you didn't notice, but you must have noticed me pointing it out. You haven't seemed to show the slightest suspicion of TheFlax, and seemed at a loss as to why I would be voting him.

My "explanation" of his self vote? You think that's evidence of him being innocent?

Also, I don't need to defend myself, treacle; this wouldn't be the first time you've accused me of being scummy and have been incorrect.

Yes you do. I've accused you three times, twice I decided you were innocent after your defense and (coincidentally) switched my vote to the real mafia. The other time I didn't decide you were innocent and in fact you weren't innocent.

[TheFlax]

I'd be keen to hear your explanation of his self-vote also.

I have a headache and I've blundered in explaining my self. As far as I understand, anything I add now will be tainted by that, so I've decided to just accept the judgement. Don't read more into it then that.

[Winston Hughes]

Since there's something that looks a bit like evidence against him, I guess I'll vote: TheFlax.

But I've still got my eye on you, White_eyes.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: GH

Pressure on Beskar seems excessive for the evidence (or lack of) I have seen.

[Secura]

I have a headache and I've blundered in explaining my self. As far as I understand, anything I add now will be tainted by that, so I've decided to just accept the judgement. Don't read more into it then that.

You gave an impression of innocence over MSN; so why are you saying that you're admitting defeat?

If all townies did that we wouldn't get anywhere at all... Sasaki's right, it doesn't help your case, Flaxy. :<

[Niklas]

I was one of the people named by Renata and was in the seven-person conversation over MSN, but I don't recall Csargo saying much at all, let alone anything pertaining to the game.

Sorry lass, I just don't buy it. Either you have an incredibly bad memory, or you are lying through your teeth. You know very well what we were discussing, and when I pressed you on it you said you remembered but didn't think to put it together with what Renata was after. It reeks of bad excuses to me.

vote: Secura

[Csargo]

Why aren't you guys voting GH?

[Chaotix]

TheFlax does not look like a good lynch to me...

the fact that we are lynching him based on his presence on a list of people created by Beskar disturbs me.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

TheFlax does not look like a good lynch to me...

the fact that we are lynching him based on his presence on a list of people created by Beskar disturbs me.

[Secura]

Sorry lass, I just don't buy it. Either you have an incredibly bad memory, or you are lying through your teeth. You know very well what we were discussing, and when I pressed you on it you said you remembered but didn't think to put it together with what Renata was after. It reeks of bad excuses to me.

And as you know from our MSN conversation, I remembered but didn't find it pertinent information as I felt it was a bluff; I wasn't going to believe what was claimed so soon after we'd seen it in-thread, so ignored it. I was more concerned about Pizza at the time, to be honest.

[Csargo]

Are you saying I'm a liar? That's not very nice.

[Chaotix]

Or was it your list?

Maybe I should go back and read the thread...

[Secura]

Are you saying I'm a liar? That's not very nice.

You understand that it's difficult to believe a claim such as that though, right?

[Subotan]

Hooray, let's all divulge our information to the trusted, honest and never convertible Beskar!

I am the Jedi Master Gul Ibil, hailing from the planet Suka. I was an apprentice of the great Jedi Trus Ting, and I have an apprentice of my own called Dum Hass. My character fought in the Jedi Civil War, but was slain by a Sith who possessed a blade made from Mandalorian Iron

[TinCow]

Why aren't you guys voting GH?

I approve of keeping the town wary of Beskar. GH's votes keep attention on Beskar even when there are other suspects, and he can't exactly lynch Beskar himself. I approve of GH's actions.

[Csargo]

I approve of keeping the town wary of Beskar. GH's votes keep attention on Beskar even when there are other suspects, and he can't exactly lynch Beskar himself. I approve of GH's actions.

That's all he's doing though.

[Renata]

Niklas and Secura, can you tell me if that list I gave was correct? I did it from memory, but I'm not 100% sure no one else had wandered in by the time Csargo said what he did. I'm on the wrong computer to double check.

[Renata]

That's all he's doing though.

Indeed. I hope he can stop it now and focus on other things, since the point has been well made, and not only by him.

[Secura]

Niklas and Secura, can you tell me if that list I gave was correct? I did it from memory, but I'm not 100% sure no one else had wandered in by the time Csargo said what he did. I'm on the wrong computer to double check.

Having spoken to Niklas about this, I believe the list of people was: Csargo, Pizza, Flaxy, Renata, Secura, Beskar, Niklas.

[Niklas]

Niklas and Secura, can you tell me if that list I gave was correct? I did it from memory, but I'm not 100% sure no one else had wandered in by the time Csargo said what he did. I'm on the wrong computer to double check.

Are you now trying to have me believe you didn't read my post #710?

[Renata]

I had the same thought as you. However, you have it slightly wrong, there were 7 people in that conversation at the time it was discussed. You left out two: TheFlax, and ATPG.

Looking at my logs, ATPG was actually the first one to bring up Csargo's supposed ability, so presumably he must have heard it elsewhere first. Where, I wonder, if he was sulking most of the day up to that point? And Renata, why did you leave them out?

Because I'm not on the right computer to check the logs, and I thought it happened earlier in the conversation than that. Scratch the question I asked a couple of posts back and replace it with a request to post the relevant portion of the logs. I see no reason it shouldn't be made public.

[Renata]

Are you now trying to have me believe you didn't read my post #710?

Yes. :)

I started from the current page in catching up. Bad habit, but not a new one. Check out my posts from yesterday.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Rest assured that I know exactly what I'm doing.

[Csargo]

Rest assured that I know exactly what I'm doing.

What are you doing?

[Beskar]

What are you doing?

He is trying to annoy me till the point I get fed-up with him and vig him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You gave an impression of innocence over MSN; so why are you saying that you're admitting defeat?

If all townies did that we wouldn't get anywhere at all... Sasaki's right, it doesn't help your case, Flaxy. :<

My vehement protests of the lynch took up half a day and set several players more or less permanently against me. I might still be here but that was a massive distraction.

From what I know of TheFlax, he's also not very argumentative. Dunno if he's guilty or not, but if you're looking for a big defense you won't find one.