StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think that there are Jedi out there with the ability to night kill, and in my estimation, one kill won't be enough to turn you to the dark side. If you're a Jedi you have done heroic things and one mistake doesn't make you Sith.

I request to be night killed, if you want to save this lynch for an actual suspect. That way the information dies with me before I can ever actually give the information to the mafia since I was dead before the conversion took place.

There's still most of a round left, I'm the default lynch. Come up with something better or don't.

[atheotes]

Lynching ATPG is a bad idea. The Sith can only recruit when one of them is dead anyway. It is the rule of two.

Also, they probably can't night attack either while recruiting. Which means less townies dead.

Is that a guess or do you know for sure?

[Kagemusha]

Lynching ATPG is a bad idea. The Sith can only recruit when one of them is dead anyway. It is the rule of two.

Also, they probably can't night attack either while recruiting. Which means less townies dead.

So you want to leave a perfect replacement with vital information alive and well. What a grand strategy.

[atheotes]

I think that there are Jedi out there with the ability to night kill, and in my estimation, one kill won't be enough to turn you to the dark side. If you're a Jedi you have done heroic things and one mistake doesn't make you Sith.

again, do you know that because you have it in your role pm or are you just guessing?

[Beskar]

An educated guess, nothing has made me doubt it.

The fact is, whatever ATPG knows, they suspect it is from Chaotix anyway. So they would most likely attack Chaotix. If the information he has is about Chaotix, he is basically useless to the mafia. Also, what is there to say Chaotix isn't suspectible himself? Would be worth more to the mafia to try to recruit him.

So you want to leave a perfect replacement with vital information alive and well. What a grand strategy.

Yet, it appears I know more information than you, also I see what "worth" ATPG has.

again, do you know that because you have it in your role pm or are you just guessing?

Pizza is incorrect. You become suspectible, then this gets stronger after you start night-killing. In short, don't night kill if you are town, unless you want to be converted to the Sith side.

[Renata]

I think that there are Jedi out there with the ability to night kill, and in my estimation, one kill won't be enough to turn you to the dark side. If you're a Jedi you have done heroic things and one mistake doesn't make you Sith.

I request to be night killed, if you want to save this lynch for an actual suspect. That way the information dies with me before I can ever actually give the information to the mafia since I was dead before the conversion took place.

There's still most of a round left, I'm the default lynch. Come up with something better or don't.

Methos and Beskar were the only two I knew with this ability. I can't personally confirm there are any more. Just one potential issue withthis.

I dont' know what'sthe right thing to do, and will sleep on it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

again, do you know that because you have it in your role pm or are you just guessing?

I was given information by then-not, but now-proven townies which tell me that there are Jedi with night kill abilities. They simply aren't using them for fear of the dark side.

The game would be ridiculously unbalanced if they couldn't use ONE kill before turning to the dark side. Someone can kill me and avoid the entire lynch waste, and then later claim to be the one who killed me, which clears them as well for that particular night.

Edit: I still want the defender to contact me back, or else I am putting my vote back where it was.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Chaotix should be the lynch choice until he explains why an apparently super important protector role revealed to him.

[Beskar]

I was given information by then-not, but now-proven townies which tell me that there are Jedi with night kill abilities. They simply aren't using them for fear of the dark side.

The game would be ridiculously unbalanced if they couldn't use ONE kill before turning to the dark side. Someone can kill me and avoid the entire lynch waste, and then later claim to be the one who killed me, which clears them as well for that particular night.

Killing innocents is never the way of the Jedi. Hence it is the Dark-side indeed.

[Husar]

Hahaha, you people are desperately trying to be useless, right?

Since ATPG is more or less cleared for now, why not lynch a random QUIET PERSON instead of him? Just let someone important like Sasaki roll a die on the six persons who are still alive and have the fewest votes and go with it, be a bit creative for a change.
Or just lynch TinCow.

[atheotes]

Chaotix should be the lynch choice until he explains why an apparently super important protector role revealed to him.

perhaps that is part of the explanation he gave to pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hahaha, you people are desperately trying to be useless, right?

Since ATPG is more or less cleared for now, why not lynch a random QUIET PERSON instead of him?, just let someone important like Sasaki roll a dice on the six persons who are still alive and have the fewest votes and go with it, be a bit creative for a change.
Or just lynch TinCow.

I repeat my offer as before, when you wouldn't trust me. Who should die today, and you will have my vote. Maybe even state a case and you will have others' votes.

[Kagemusha]

I was given information by then-not, but now-proven townies which tell me that there are Jedi with night kill abilities. They simply aren't using them for fear of the dark side.

The game would be ridiculously unbalanced if they couldn't use ONE kill before turning to the dark side. Someone can kill me and avoid the entire lynch waste, and then later claim to be the one who killed me, which clears them as well for that particular night.

Edit: I still want the defender to contact me back, or else I am putting my vote back where it was.

And wasnt the case for jedi´s being able to be recruited to the dark side only after they have killed someone? So we should create even more candidates for Sith recruitment in your opinion?

[Chaotix]

Chaotix should be the lynch choice until he explains why an apparently super important protector role revealed to him.

There's a really, really good explanation for that, and I'm sure you can figure it out if you open up your mind Sasaki.

Wait, lemme go a little further. *Wink wink*

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There's a really, really good explanation for that, and I'm sure you can figure it out if you open up your mind Sasaki.

Wait, lemme go a little further. *Wink wink*

I don't give people good explanations if I think they might be lying.

[Kagemusha]

Just lynch ATPG and we have one less risk to worry about.I am sure after this fiasco Sith´s will take care of Chaotix.

[atheotes]

My assumption is that - some characters are inherently susceptible to the dark side (like ATPG), there are others like Jedi Masters (only?) with a vig kill ability that when used will make them susceptible to recruitment. Perhaps there are Jedi masters and Jedi Knights with vig kill ability.

that is the reason I think we should lynch ATPG instead of night-killing him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just lynch ATPG and we have one less risk to worry about.I am sure after this fiasco Sith´s will take care of Chaotix.

^
This is a decent default plan. Just giving you time to mull over a good move and see if you can't sit on your hands until you find a better one.

[Kagemusha]

^
This is a decent default plan. Just giving you time to mull over a good move and see if you can't sit on your hands until you find a better one.

Well wouldnt you agree that leaving you alive is bit of an unnecesessary risk to take?

[atheotes]

^
This is a decent default plan. Just giving you time to mull over a good move and see if you can't sit on your hands until you find a better one.

Not everyone seems to think that you have to be lynched. If the majority agree we can move on.
All this happened way too fast and i dont think there was a need to have you wasted.

[Beskar]

Remember the attack on me yesterday? During that attack, some one removed my ability to self-protect, tonight, I got killed... the person who removed my ability to self-protect was infact my "protector".

*cough*

I allow the town to put that one together themselves.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Remember the attack on me yesterday? During that attack, some one removed my ability to self-protect, tonight, I got killed... the person who removed my ability to self-protect was infact my "protector".

*cough*

Didn't chaotix say something about his guy removing an ability of yours?

[Kagemusha]

If the majority will decide not to lynch pizza in situation where he committed de facto suicide by contacting the contact of Chaotix in his current position.Which he knows perfectly well himself also. In that case the town deserves to loose by playing more irrationally then should be possible.

[Beskar]

Didn't chaotix say something about his guy removing an ability of yours?

Yes. The ability to protect myself from night attacks. I luckly, I had another one (which you see in the write-up) but it was powerless against that Force Current attack. They claimed they did it to make me a servant of sorts, so I have to rely on protection. Instead of "protecting me" they were claiming to weaken my character further, by taking away my Vig ability. However, it could easily be seen as they removed my ability to self-protect, then they killed me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well wouldnt you agree that leaving you alive is bit of an unnecesessary risk to take?

No, because it isn't forced until tomorrow. I can be vig-killed tonight, as we haven't used ANY of our vig kills yet. And therefore I won't be recruited either because it will be a wasted effort to recruit a dead guy, or one who will be lynched tomorrow regardless.

If the mafia really wish to recruit me they will get nothing but pain for their trouble. So, our move isn't forced here. I agree that without a good case on anyone else, I am a default lynch and have been since I've become a useless piece of **** which is publicly known to be recruitable. But, you also know that lynching me kills no Sith. So decide your wisest move.

[Chaotix]

Tally:

ATPG: 4 (ATPG, Chaotix, atheotes, Renata)

Chaotix: 2 (Sasaki, Kage)
Niklas: 1 (TinCow)

Unless I missed it, I don't think you actually changed your own vote, Kage.

Beskar is, I believe, furious with me. Understandably. I'd like him to contact me back so I can continue apologizing.

[Kagemusha]

No, because it isn't forced until tomorrow. I can be vig-killed tonight, as we haven't used ANY of our vig kills yet. And therefore I won't be recruited either because it will be a wasted effort to recruit a dead guy, or one who will be lynched tomorrow regardless.

If the mafia really wish to recruit me they will get nothing but pain for their trouble. So, our move isn't forced here. I agree that without a good case on anyone else, I am a default lynch and have been since I've become a useless piece of **** which is publicly known to be recruitable. But, you also know that lynching me kills no Sith. So decide your wisest move.

Well if we dont have results that are water proof.That doesnt work as your alibi either, so you could have been Sith all along. If we dont have a Sith to lynch.The next best thing is possible/recruitable Sith that carries valuable information with him.

EDIT: Chaotix i did unvote and vote pizza its there.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well if we dont have results that are water proof.That doesnt work as your alibi either, so you could have been Sith all along. If we dont have a Sith to lynch.The next best thing is possible/recruitable Sith that carries valuable information with him.

EDIT: Chaotix i did unvote and vote pizza its there.

Put it this way, Kage

1. If I am Sith, then this move serves one purpose only: To spare MY Sith Lord.
2. If Chaotix isn't dead in a couple rounds, lynch him.

I've accomplished nothing with this move as a Sith. Chaotix will not survive the game.

[Kagemusha]

Put it this way, Kage

1. If I am Sith, then this move serves one purpose only: To spare MY Sith Lord.
2. If Chaotix isn't dead in a couple rounds, lynch him.

I've accomplished nothing with this move as a Sith. Chaotix will not survive the game.

Well like Chaotix you are done for already.It is just matter of time. So if you were able to identify another jedi master, while im quite sure there arent that many left to begin with. You would have served your purpose. Lot better result in matter of fact, then just to be lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well like Chaotix you are done for already.It is just matter of time. So if you were able to identify another jedi master, while im quite sure there arent that many left to begin with. You would have served your purpose. Lot better result in matter of fact, then just to be lynched.

If I were just out to get information on who the Jedi master was, I would have done exactly the same thing but not offered my head.

Ok then again that's WIFOM and we won't go there, I don't need a repeat of the earlier argument that got me so frustrated.