StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So you can basically confirm that chaotix is yoda? I assume he can protect you anyway.

[Secura]

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans... it's like we want the Sith to win or something tonight. >.<

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[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sadly, the people acting "unnatural" are often doing so because they have a pro town role.

[naut]

So you can basically confirm that chaotix is yoda? I assume he can protect you anyway.

Yes. He is Yoda. At least to the extent of my limited and jumbled knowledge. I've been trying to identify who is Palpatine, but I just can't get a good lock on them. Most frustrating.

[naut]

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans... it's like we want the Sith to win or something tonight. >.<

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Tell me about it. The town almost deserves to lose after this shambles. Luckily for us, we do have other masters, such as Qui-gonn, who can still help our cause.

[Thermal]

Sadly, the people acting "unnatural" are often doing so because they have a pro town role.

Terrible.

[TheFlax]

I am unsure if Drain Knowledge or Morichro are really Jedi powers within the canon. All I know is that they say "Grand Master" next to them.

I don't know if we can count on the powers always matching up. Didn't Methos have Force Lightning?

Yes, they are both canon and I've seen various iteration of them in various Star Wars RPGs.

I've browsed Wookiepedia and what is said looks about right:

Drain Knowledge

Morichro

I would like to also note that in many Star Wars games, Force Healing and Force Protect are light side powers.

[Chaotix]

I can either go along with the planned roleblock I have made in private, or I can protect Obi-Wan tonight.

Psycho, please PM me and tell me whether or not you have or need protection.

[naut]

In other news. I was going to come here and vote, Niklas, before all these shenanigans erupted. I am fairly certain he was your leak Beskar, fairly, but not 100%.

Vote: Niklas

[autolycus]

I think khaan is the best candidate of those I've seen so far, although I might shift over to niklas. vote: khaan

[Chaotix]

Well, we can't continue to vote for Psycho if he is Obi-Wan.

Unvote, Vote: Niklas

This is the best lynch today.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote, vote:Niklas

Do we in fact know that there was a leak? Someone figured on Beskar being vulnerable yes?

[Secura]

unvote, vote:Niklas

Do we in fact know that there was a leak? Someone figured on Beskar being vulnerable yes?

Niklas was our main suspect after Pizza, I think. Beskar can clarify.

vote: Niklas

[Askthepizzaguy]

YAY WAGON REVERSAL

unvote, vote: Niklas


Also, it's nice to know I won't be recruited for my secret knowledge anymore. Now I can just be killed outright, WOO-HOO

[Beskar]

If there was, Niklas would have found out or worked it out. (due to close promixation to Renata, etc)

I investigated him tonight, shame I was killed before I got a clear answer.

[Chaotix]

YAY WAGON REVERSAL

unvote, vote: Niklas


Also, it's nice to know I won't be recruited for my secret knowledge anymore. Now I can just be killed outright, WOO-HOO

You may still be recruited for WIFOM. Don't get your hopes up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You may still be recruited for WIFOM. Don't get your hopes up.

What's the point? I'm lynchbait.

Might as well recruit an old dog on his way to the vet to be put to sleep. He's a real winner.

[Diana Abnoba]

Beskar how did you KNOW you were going to be killed last night?

[Beskar]

Beskar how did you KNOW you were going to be killed last night?

I didn't. Basically was told when the night orders send in was over, and I checked in with my "protector" who failed to actually send any night orders in to protect me who turned around and said that it was actually sent in.

[Diamondeye]

Oookay when I read the first posts of the day I was all hyped on lynching Chaotix, but his claim makes perfect sense to me. So, too, does Psychonaut's.

Hence, I am going to vote: Niklas, who is the top suspect. I'm sort of suspicious about Pizza, who seems to have dropped the ball entirely with his WIFOM, and Tincow, but that might just be because he seems to know more than what's going on in the thread (discarding the Chaotix lynch and voting Niklas before the reveal).

[Renata]

Yes. He is Yoda. At least to the extent of my limited and jumbled knowledge. I've been trying to identify who is Palpatine, but I just can't get a good lock on them. Most frustrating.

Geez Louise. Psycho, if you're town, you did a WONDERFUL impression of a mafia.

Please explain your ability. As indicated somewhere in that wall-of-text Niklas did way back wherever, I find it inherently dubious. This comment doesn't help much. You can't get a good lock? What does that mean? What do you do? Why are you claiming credit for identifying roles as being in the game when 80% of them are dead or otherwise revealed in the write-ups and 2/3 of the rest are no-brainers?

I hate this lynch. It's not a horrific one based on evidence available, but based on personal experience with him as a mafia player (and one objective data point that will prove nothing to anyone but me), I am almost sure Niklas is innocent. I knew there was a risk of multiple mis-lynches when I brought up the leak theory, so it's my own fault, but I don't have to like it.

[Renata]

Also, all those posts were role-playing Obi-wan? In what universe?

Sorry, but it's three in the morning, I'm feeling sick, and I'm cranky about this.

[Renata]

One more thing as long as I'm likely shooting myself in the foot anyway --

You revealed to Beskar just yesterday, right? As in, right around the time when the mafia would have been deciding they had no chance of getting Beskar lynched after all, and so would have had incentive to make any last minute reveals they might want to make to him to grab any townie cred or contacts they could get out of it?

I want a full explanation of that ability.

[Renata]

My most suspicious person based on in-thread activity matches up with my most suspicious revealed role based on second-hand information -- no way I'm dropping this.

[Kagemusha]

Unvote, Vote: Renata.Well if not Niklas then maybe you are the Sith. Looking back the two of you worked pretty hard discrediting Beskar during the last day session.

[Renata]

Argh. I'm not suicidal.

[Renata]

unvote, vote:Niklas

Do we in fact know that there was a leak? Someone figured on Beskar being vulnerable yes?

There are two (three actually) potential evidences of a leak. Csargo's death, Methos' death, and Beskar's death. They need different treatment.

Csargo: Has been gone over before how he might have been evidence of a leak, but he did also vote for himself in the thread, which might have drawn mafia attention.
Methos: Much harder to explain why the mafia would have gone for him without a leak. It now think that they did (as Beskar's death removes all concern about him and Secura, and I think Niklas is innocent), but it's not obvious why.
Beskar: Mafia motivation for killing him doesn't need explanation, but the fact that they tried on a night when he wasn't protected perhaps does. I don't know who had access to that information prior to Beskar being informed of the attack on him. (I didn't; to my knowledge Niklas did not.) Chaotix or Beskar might be able to say.

To sum up, we don't know for a fact there was a leak. I believe there wasn't as regards Csargo or Niklas, and have no information as regards Beskar's vulnerability.

[Andres]

Well, town is doing a great job in finding the people who behave off. Unfortunately, it are all pro-town power roles

Hmmm, wasn't there a group sharing all info from the beginning of the game, consisting of Beskar, Niklas, Renata and Secura?

I asked this question in one of the first rounds before: who was the most careless with information? That's probably your leak.

Getting bad vibes from TinCow and Diamondeye. Mostly Diamondeye. Somebody should do a reread on him. EDIT: nothing wrong with Diamondeye's previous posts; bad vibes are coming from his last post only I think.

GH hasn't been very talkative either in this game.

[atheotes]

Here is an alternate theory:
Mafia did not know that Methos was Mace Windu. They attacked him and found that they could kill Jedi Masters without much difficulty. So they decided to go for Beskar and him beinng unprotected was a coincidence.

[Beskar]

Here is an alternate theory:
Mafia did not know that Methos was Mace Windu. They attacked him and found that they could kill Jedi Masters without much difficulty. So they decided to go for Beskar and him beinng unprotected was a coincidence.

Confession?