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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Aztlan sounds like pre-WW2 Europe concept of German Lebensraum.

    What is more likely to happen, is that North America merges into one nation state instead of the current 3 seperate ones.
    That will be a LONG time coming, if ever. Canada and the USA are drifting together on enough sociopolitical issues/outlooks where such a possibility (though remote) does exist. But the Canadians don't need to be part of the USA to be successful. Mexico is pretty much always in tight straights, and would benefit from such a union in a number of ways, but the cultural differences would make it even more difficult and less likely.

    Final verdict = please don't hold your breath waiting for the USA to encompass the whole continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Final verdict = please don't hold your breath waiting for the USA to encompass the whole continent.
    Did someone say Manifest Destiny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Did someone say Manifest Destiny?
    It done been manifested already. We're from sea to shining sea, not from Yucatan peninsula to North Pole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    That will be a LONG time coming, if ever. Canada and the USA are drifting together on enough sociopolitical issues/outlooks where such a possibility (though remote) does exist. But the Canadians don't need to be part of the USA to be successful. Mexico is pretty much always in tight straights, and would benefit from such a union in a number of ways, but the cultural differences would make it even more difficult and less likely.

    Final verdict = please don't hold your breath waiting for the USA to encompass the whole continent.
    True, but with NAFTA, you could see the beginnings of what happened with Europe, at first, Europe was a Free Trade Agreement.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_A...rade_Agreement

    Then again, I am one of those which thinks the merging of nation states is a good thing, the quicker we get rid of nations, the better.
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    Better to be a migrant in the US than a migrant in Mexico:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/...ico_migrants_1

    My favorite fact in the article:

    At present, Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues."

    Of course, NOW they are working to change it, when the mirror is shone back at them
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    Hey El-Tee, good to see you again!! All is well with you in teh 'Stan?

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    Last night I saw an AZ State Senator on TV; he sent to Ms Napolitano (former Dem Gov of AZ, nowadays a Fed; Dir, Homeland Security) an invoice for a couple billion bucks for costs associated with housing, feeding, and/or incarcerating illegal immigrants - similar to the bill she sent to GW Bush a few years ago. Funny, I thought. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    Hey El-Tee, good to see you again!! All is well with you in teh 'Stan?

    -edit-
    Last night I saw an AZ State Senator on TV; he sent to Ms Napolitano (former Dem Gov of AZ, nowadays a Fed; Dir, Homeland Security) an invoice for a couple billion bucks for costs associated with housing, feeding, and/or incarcerating illegal immigrants - similar to the bill she sent to GW Bush a few years ago. Funny, I thought. :)
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