Deadliest Warrior

**jabarto** · 05-08-2010, 20:24

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Samuri vs Viking was pretty silly. In real life the Viking would kneel behind his shield when the Samuri used his bow, and he'd have to face the Viking's spear in close quarters, not just as a thrown weapon (typically Northmen carried 3-4 "spears" into battle, or had their servant carry them).

Knight vs Pirate was also silly, the Knight didn't have a crossbow.

Did you ever see ThegnThrand's videos on YouTube? He spends a lot of time (probably too much) describing things like what you say.

Does anyone else notice that in every episode, there has to be at least one completely ridiculous weapon? The spit of poison and the ball and chain from the Shaka/Wallace episode come readily to mind...

And don't even get me started on the fact that they spent a quarter of the show touting Alexander's unarmed combat abilities and then had him lose to Atilla the moment he lost his sword.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 05-08-2010, 22:03

Originally Posted by jabarto

Did you ever see ThegnThrand's videos on YouTube? He spends a lot of time (probably too much) describing things like what you say.

Does anyone else notice that in every episode, there has to be at least one completely ridiculous weapon? The spit of poison and the ball and chain from the Shaka/Wallace episode come readily to mind...

And don't even get me started on the fact that they spent a quarter of the show touting Alexander's unarmed combat abilities and then had him lose to Atilla the moment he lost his sword.

Alexander is an interesting one to do, because we aren't sure what size he was. He may have been as short as 4'10. Ball and Chain (Bishop's knocker) is an excellent weapon, but the choice of the Zulu team to use "spit of poisen" clearly screwed them. As I understand it the "teams" put foward the weapon set themselves.

So the Vikings could have used the Longbow, or Long Axe, instead of throwing thrusting spears and using the Great Axe. Also labelling the shield "special" was absurd. The throwing axe is much more a special weapon. That whole fight was a duff match up, because the Samauri is elite, and they pitted him against what was basically a Viking Carl. They also totally underplayed the dicipline of Viking warriors (men who fought in the shieldwall.)

Sorry, rant over.

**jabarto** · 05-08-2010, 22:32

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Alexander is an interesting one to do, because we aren't sure what size he was. He may have been as short as 4'10. Ball and Chain (Bishop's knocker) is an excellent weapon, but the choice of the Zulu team to use "spit of poisen" clearly screwed them. As I understand it the "teams" put foward the weapon set themselves.

So the Vikings could have used the Longbow, or Long Axe, instead of throwing thrusting spears and using the Great Axe. Also labelling the shield "special" was absurd. The throwing axe is much more a special weapon. That whole fight was a duff match up, because the Samauri is elite, and they pitted him against what was basically a Viking Carl. They also totally underplayed the dicipline of Viking warriors (men who fought in the shieldwall.)

Sorry, rant over.

Well, as a history buff, I enjoy seeing rants of this nature.

Speaking of which, if it's not too off-topic, I'd like to ask if you know any good books on Viking culture and warfare. I've asked this question many times, and am usually told to go read Osprey, and since you're an EB member you likely have a better grasp of history than the average person, even if this particular topic isn't your focus.

**Centurion1** · 05-09-2010, 01:09

Bernard Cornwells new series...... lol at least he uses a freaking shield wall.

seriously though good books.

The katan wouldnt touch a vikings chainmail and leather byrnie, wool cloth..... etc.

watching this show just pisses me off so much.

its like bash western european fighters contest.

Edit: and the experts dont know **** i know more than those queers. The samurai experts were a martial artist and some queer american-japanese guy. like seriously he sounded like he would piss his breeches in a fight.

and phillips samurai were not really "elite". Popular misconception. on average a medival knight is more elite as in terms of numbers. Everyone in a japanese army was usually "samurai". even most ronin and wako were samurai.

**Kagemusha** · 05-09-2010, 04:03

Originally Posted by Centurion1

Bernard Cornwells new series...... lol at least he uses a freaking shield wall.

seriously though good books.

The katan wouldnt touch a vikings chainmail and leather byrnie, wool cloth..... etc.

watching this show just pisses me off so much.

its like bash western european fighters contest.

Edit: and the experts dont know **** i know more than those queers. The samurai experts were a martial artist and some queer american-japanese guy. like seriously he sounded like he would piss his breeches in a fight.

and phillips samurai were not really "elite". Popular misconception. on average a medival knight is more elite as in terms of numbers. Everyone in a japanese army was usually "samurai". even most ronin and wako were samurai.

Actually most of japanese armies consisted of Ashigaru foot soldiers. Other then that the show only has entertainment value,nothing more nothing less.

**jabarto** · 05-09-2010, 06:28

Originally Posted by Centurion1

Bernard Cornwells new series...... lol at least he uses a freaking shield wall.

seriously though good books.

The katan wouldnt touch a vikings chainmail and leather byrnie, wool cloth..... etc.

watching this show just pisses me off so much.

its like bash western european fighters contest.

Edit: and the experts dont know **** i know more than those queers. The samurai experts were a martial artist and some queer american-japanese guy. like seriously he sounded like he would piss his breeches in a fight.

and phillips samurai were not really "elite". Popular misconception. on average a medival knight is more elite as in terms of numbers. Everyone in a japanese army was usually "samurai". even most ronin and wako were samurai.

I agree whole-heartedly. I think guys like this are where they draw their pool of experts: http://poetv.com/video.php?vid=73364

**Vuk** · 05-09-2010, 22:24

The worst was the Shaolin Monk vs. Maori Warrior. What an insult to the Shaolin to even consider such a match. The Shaolin are so many miles above them in the skill level and sophistication of fighting and fighting techniques, and has weapons that were infinitely superior. It is like putting a US Marine against an unarmed 14 year old school girl...it is not even a fight, it is a slaughter.
I just don't understand why they cut the monk down so much in the show. (or why he was even on the show, him not being a warrior :P)

**jabarto** · 05-09-2010, 22:36

Also I think the Vlad the Impaler vs. Sun Tzu episode is going to be a pretty good acid test of their eastern bias. I mean, you're pitting one of the most psychotically brutal warriors in history (with a 2000 year technology advantage to boot) against a strategist with no record of ever having been in actual combat. Mark my words, it's going to be the most lopsided episode they've ever done.

**Megas Methuselah** · 05-10-2010, 04:42

Originally Posted by Centurion1

Bernard Cornwells new series...... lol at least he uses a freaking shield wall.

I enjoy his Saxon Series, too. Can't wait to purchase his latest book.

**Centurion1** · 05-10-2010, 12:08

Sorry that's the one I meant did you read the burning land yet?

**Megas Methuselah** · 05-10-2010, 12:38

Naw not yet, but holy damn, I can't wait! I'll likely buy it later today, 'cuz I don't work this Monday and I'll be out shoppin! Been so busy with uni finals and starting my job this past month or two.