Daggers in the Night [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Vote: Sasaki

[ULC]

In case we do not receive your formal and official apology (which will have to contain the words "I bow humbly for you, master, and beg thee to accept an apology from me, your servant and insignifcant maggot") within this phase, sanctions will be applied. These sanctions involve Henchman 2 (Sasaki Kojiro), taking your life during the night phase.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....if I die, more time to place my effort elsewhere, instead of listening to you imitate the Hindenburg - full of hot air and bound to crash and burn.

Since it seems you cannot plead for your life, having had the epiphany that to do so would be to spend more then your life is worth, my vote stays where it is.

[Romanic]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....if I die, more time to place my effort elsewhere, instead of listening to you imitate the Hindenburg - full of hot air and bound to crash and burn.

Since it seems you cannot plead for your life, having had the epiphany that to do so would be to spend more then your life is worth, my vote stays where it is.

Let's see how you plead for you life.

vote: YLC

[pevergreen]

Let's see how you plead for you life.

vote: YLC

I like this kid

[The Stranger]

Agree on Tincow to some extent, but not as much because he's such an obvious choice.

Kukrikhan, definitely. He's got the experience and he's been out of it for a while, so he won't get lynched right away (most likely).
Kagemusha is doing his humor because that is the PERFECT way to avoid being lynched, and he doesn't have to offer serious analysis either. He's already got your sympathies, too, Sasaki. Not a small feat.
I would also have chosen Sasaki, but it would be because I'm not me, I'm someone else who is the ancient. Sasaki and I have a similar scummy vibe about us, so I wouldn't have picked him, I'd have left him alive for a while and then killed him around the same time one of my henchmen died. But, others would have picked him.
I would have chosen Renata or pevergreen due to Renata being sympathetic, and pevergreen because he can survive a very long time if you don't lynch him right away. Beefy is also an excellent pick. He will crawl right into your heart and cuddle up with it, until he eats it.

You really want more of a Beefy or pevergreen "type" who avoids being lynched and survives a long time because they generally put less pressure on the mafia and generally don't take charge of the discussion. If they are mafia their behavior doesn't have to change in order to survive a long time, which is all you need. They're also not considered must lynch candidates.



Yeah, and the perfect defense against being lynched.



Either the kills will drop or I'll be proved innocent without wasting the late lynches which are the ones which usually catch scum.

Either bite the bullet and kill me, or bite the bullet and force the mafia to kill me. Don't waffle later on.

i wouldve chosen myself!! im awesomely good at this game... no one just dares to see it.

[The Stranger]

i didnt think i'd ever say this, because quite frankly i didnt even know she existed untill quite recently, but i have to agree with renata. ATPG is too happy about getting lynched, and it might be somekinda trap, i can think of a few options.

1) he is sincere and thinks he actually will help the mafia to a win when left alive for too long
2) he is lying about 1) and something in his role says that his death will benefit his winning chances and a) this is positive for the town or b) it is negative for the town.
3) he is the ancient one, and seeing how the ancient one is immune to lynch, he just wants us to lynch him so that the town wastes a precious lynch vote in a crucial stage of the game.
4) he is playing high stakes and gambles to win, so that later he can fall back to this event and say, see, i wanted to die then but noone did anything...

i don't know now... but i think we should call his bet and oblige him for his request to be lynched.

unvote: vote: ATPG

[The Stranger]

Sasaki, ATPG, why TinCow exactly? I'm pretty tired at the moment, so I might have missed an explanation, sorry if that's the case. Also, I don't buy the ATPG "plz vote me" plea. You were very annoyed in the Star Wars game because Sasaki called for you to sacrifice yourself and *now* you offer to do it? Why the change of heart? You must have known that the town would be divided about voting for you and that you'd survive your "self sacrifice". Later on, as you pointed out, you can just claim this as proof of your devotion to the town cause.

Finally, to answer Sasaki's question. I'm not sure exactly who I would pick, but my first criteria would be choosing someone who is not mafia often, to give them a chance to play as mafia and my second criteria would be to pick someone who is not associated with me. It also gives me the opportunity to know that person better.

which would be what everyone is expecting and therefore a real mafiaking would do the opposite and go with the bigshots...

[Askthepizzaguy]

1) Yes.
2) I wouldn't lie if my death was positive for the town. I'd be like "Lynch me and here's why:" like I am doing now.
3) Proving myself to be the ancient one this early, when there's still vig kills left, and I have no idea when my henchmen will die, is advantageous how? ....Just wondering.
4) Because then I will have titanium cojones.

i don't know now... but i think we should call his bet and oblige him for his request to be lynched.

Sounds like someone just broke THE DEAL.

I'll never sign an alliance with you again EVER!

[The Stranger]

1) Yes.
2) I wouldn't lie if my death was positive for the town. I'd be like "Lynch me and here's why:" like I am doing now.
3) Proving myself to be the ancient one this early, when there's still vig kills left, and I have no idea when my henchmen will die, is advantageous how? ....Just wondering.
4) Because then I will have titanium cojones.



Sounds like someone just broke THE DEAL.

I'll never sign an alliance with you again EVER!

i totally forgot about that... well sounds like your mother didnt teach u never to trust strangers with bad memories.

for all the people wondering what deal it was, ATPG proposed a mutual nonvotingforeachother agreement.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i totally forgot about that... well sounds like your mother didnt teach u never to trust strangers with bad memories.

Yeah and earlier today you accused ME of breaking the deal, and I was like.... WHERE????

And you were like, oh yeah...... *facepalm*

Are you sure your brain is plugged in today?

[The Stranger]

pizza pizza... read ur pms.. i never said yes to the deal... you are delusional. and i got you.

such agreements are scummy. and i dont want to be involved in scummy activities. you however... really dont want people to vote for you, atleast it appears to be so behind the scenes, with how many people have you made a similar agreement???

[Jolt]

Vote: ATPG

Random returning fire in the dark after someone tried to shoot me in the dark.

[Askthepizzaguy]

pizza pizza... read ur pms.. i never said yes to the deal... you are delusional. and i got you.

So how could you accuse me of breaking a deal you never agreed to, then?

It matters not. Start hunting for some mafia, lazy buns! Less chatty, more accusey!


@ Jolt-

OW! I am mortally wounded. The horror, the horror.

[Askthepizzaguy]

such agreements are scummy. and i dont want to be involved in scummy activities. you however... really dont want people to vote for you, atleast it appears to be so behind the scenes, with how many people have you made a similar agreement???

I didn't seek you out, you're the one that offered. I figured what the heck, someone doesn't want to vote for me. Cheers. Everyone who made a similar agreement can step forward now. That will be absolutely zero people. You're the crazy one cutting scummy deals that you later say people broke when they didn't.

As for really don't want people to vote for me, you're right.... you called my bluff and I was bluffing. I am a slave and I kill people for fun and profit. But I warn you, if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than.... than....

*graps handful of sand*

THIS SAND!!! RIGHT HERE!!!



Oh how the sun keeps my skull warm.... oooooh.... pretty colors.

[Beefy187]

Its better to give pizza less credibility by keeping him alive.
I don't think he is the ancient. If he is a henchmen, and if we give him too much power by lynching him now... we'll be stuffed.

[pevergreen]

He doesnt gain credibility by being lynched.



Unvote: Saskai, Vote: Beefy

[Secura]

I have to ask something; why are people posting things along the lines of "if I was the Ancient, I'd have picked..."?

It's like when O.J Simpson wrote a book about the way in which he would have killed his wife and her lover had he been guilty, entitled "If I Did It". xD

[Askthepizzaguy]

Its better to give pizza less credibility by keeping him alive.
I don't think he is the ancient. If he is a henchmen, and if we give him too much power by lynching him now... we'll be stuffed.

What pever said.

Each slave has one murder power. One of them dies, the mafia is down by one murder, and that's forced.

Rulez

[Double A]

Wait, the mafia get more power by killing one of their doodz?

[pevergreen]

How'd you get to that conclusion DA.

[Beefy187]

What pever said.

Each slave has one murder power. One of them dies, the mafia is down by one murder, and that's forced.

Rulez

I didn't mean extra ability. What I meant was you dominating the town effort and discussions by getting lynched now... When the terms is good for you.
This is too risky for the Ancient to do. but if your one of the slaves, its beneficial for the mafia team to have someone inside the town trust circle.

[Renata]

You're assuming the mafia will be able to continue with two kills once one of the slaves is dead. Else we'd know for sure Pizza was innocent right away when the kills failed to drop -- there's no margin whatsoever in the mafia dropping to one kill voluntarily this early in the game, just to neutralize Pizza.

If you think you know that the mafia will continue with two kills once one slave is dead, I'd be interested in knowing where you learned that.

[Secura]

Hence Pizza's suggestion to lynch him sooner rather than later. :3

More people need to start voting, by the way... alot of non-voters last round, not good enough!

[TheFlax]

I have to ask something; why are people posting things along the lines of "if I was the Ancient, I'd have picked..."?

Sasaki asked us to play that game.

[Beefy187]

You're assuming the mafia will be able to continue with two kills once one of the slaves is dead. Else we'd know for sure Pizza was innocent right away when the kills failed to drop -- there's no margin whatsoever in the mafia dropping to one kill voluntarily this early in the game, just to neutralize Pizza.

If you think you know that the mafia will continue with two kills once one slave is dead, I'd be interested in knowing where you learned that.

I was under the impression that Andres is using the God Father mechanics. Which means, two kills at all times. When two grunts dies, God Father gets to kill.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Niklas

Do something or die in my place.

[Niklas]

unvote, vote Niklas

Too quiet for someone as dangerous as you. Plus, you had the obviously-right answer about Autolycus right at the tip of your tongue, suggesting you'd thought at least a little about the game, but followed that up by seeming confused about the setup. And, like apparently everyone else who did think Autolycus was an obvious kill (Pizza, Sasaki, others?), you didn't see fit to mention it to Secura.

I am reading and following, so yes I think about the game, I just haven't had much to post about thus far. But I will be more active.

I had the right answer about Autolycus, but it was still a hindsight answer. It didn't occur to me before he was killed, hence I had nothing to tell Secura in advance.

vote: Sasaki for trying to be too much like Sasaki.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am reading and following, so yes I think about the game, I just haven't had much to post about thus far. But I will be more active.

Sure, if we pressure you.

vote: Sasaki for trying to be too much like Sasaki.

Hmm interesting. You think they would go with the obvious obvious choice then?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[TheFlax]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Not even a reason?