My next game?

[Qvintvs]

Play as Hayasdan:
1. Some of the worst infantry units in the world.
2. Poor economy.
3. Good cavalry, that you will not get until, maybe, 200 BC thanks to poor economy.
4. Arche Seleukeia has access to troops that are better than yours, and they will attack you as well.

It is still possible to win through, unless you dare to VH/VH once again.

[pikeman]

VH AI has rabies, I'm not going to do it again.

[artavazd]

Play as Hayasdan:
1. Some of the worst infantry units in the world.2. Poor economy.
3. Good cavalry, that you will not get until, maybe, 200 BC thanks to poor economy.
4. Arche Seleukeia has access to troops that are better than yours, and they will attack you as well.

It is still possible to win through, unless you dare to VH/VH once again.

Armenian medium sword infantry, are solid infantry units, on par with principes. Armenian noble infantry, are an elite unite that are on par with other elite unites. This faction is far from having "the worst infantry units in the world."

[DaciaJC]

I would strongly recommend playing the Getai/Dacians. Great starting position and plenty of fun-to-use units. They aren't particularly challenging to play as, though.

[Macilrille]

Wow! Somebody cast a necromancy spell and got FL back ;-) WB
Getai's economy is not too great, consider that he got kicked as Rome. For an experienced player Getai is easy and fun, for a newcomer, any faction whose economy starts off by going - is not so fun.

[DaciaJC]

Wow! Somebody cast a necromancy spell and got FL back ;-) WB
Getai's economy is not too great, consider that he got kicked as Rome. For an experienced player Getai is easy and fun, for a newcomer, any faction whose economy starts off by going - is not so fun.

Yes, the Getai do go into the red immediately after starting, but with a bit of careful management (and some patience), the economic situation is quite salvageable. I just might write a small guide with some financial tips with regards to the Getai for players new to EB. I too made several major errors in my first playthrough.

In the meantime, pikeman, consider glancing through this post: Getai Roster

The wondrous variety of Getic units may just be the thing to convince you.

[ximxim]

Play as Hayasdan:
1. Some of the worst infantry units in the world.
2. Poor economy.
3. Good cavalry, that you will not get until, maybe, 200 BC thanks to poor economy.
4. Arche Seleukeia has access to troops that are better than yours, and they will attack you as well.

It is still possible to win through, unless you dare to VH/VH once again.

I'd suggest Hayasdan as well, but for basically exactly the opposite reasons. :)

The economy I've found is rather good, with lots of provinces having access to good mines. The infantry is not that bad, the basic Caucasian Spearmen is a better version of the Pantodapoi, Persian Hoplites are very decent mobile line infantry, and the caucasian archers are not too bad. Can't speak for the cavalry, as I have a houserule not to use them.

Personally I've found the medium infantry pretty bad, not sure I'd want to compare them to principes (worse swords, worse defence, worse formation, much more expensive etc). The noble infantry is worth it's cost, though.

[Zradha Pahlavan]

Saba isn't in the options? What is wrong with the Saba? Rrrrrrr...
Parthia is fun if you can get used to the horse-archer management, but Epeiros isn't bad either.

[Macilrille]

Guys, he is a Newcomer, Haysdan is the only campaign I have ever had to restart and Saba is the only one Fluvius has. Those two and Pontos are perhaps the most difficult ones and you guys ask a guy who got kicked in the much- much easier Roman campaign to try it...

Not very fair on him. Let him get some experience first, we all had to in order to suceed in the difficult factions.