Acropolis Now

[Furunculus]

the euro, as we currently know it, is a finished:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...t-is-dead.html

interesting erad

[Fragony]

Good read and good riddance. Benelux + Germany = win. What's the rest of Europe going to do about it if we hang them out to dry. We are Europe's engine we can do as we please.

[Jolt]

Good read and good riddance. Benelux + Germany = win. What's the rest of Europe going to do about it if we hang them out to dry. We are Europe's engine we can do as we please.

In automobile physionomy, if anything, Germany is the engine and France is the gearbox. The rest are just spare parts.

[Fragony]

In automobile physionomy, if anything, Germany is the engine and France is the gearbox. The rest are just spare parts.

And we are the gate. Europe needs our harbours nobody has such capacity. France is dead weight really, they are in trouble as well.

[Vladimir]

France is dead weight really, they are in trouble as well.

FINALLY someone agrees!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Just kidding. I'm a closet Frenchman.

[Kagemusha]

And we are the gate. Europe needs our harbours nobody has such capacity. France is dead weight really, they are in trouble as well.

Well in that case i guess we can form our Scandinavian Union with Sweden,Norway and Denmark and live happily ever after in our terribly socialist valhalla. I guess we just need some nukes, so Russia will leave us alone.

[Fragony]

Well in that case i guess we can form our Scandinavian Union with Sweden,Norway and Denmark and live happily ever after in our terribly socialist valhalla. I guess we just need some nukes, so Russia will leave us alone.

Awwwwww we got enough nukes for all of us. Join the fun!

[Furunculus]

Well in that case i guess we can form our Scandinavian Union with Sweden,Norway and Denmark and live happily ever after in our terribly socialist valhalla. I guess we just need some nukes, so Russia will leave us alone.

two words for you:

join. nato.

[Beskar]

I love this quote from the telegraph:

Telegraph loyalists with long memories will be shocked by none of this. In 1996, Sir Martin Jacomb, then chairman of the Prudential, set out with great prescience in two pieces for The Sunday Telegraph why a European single currency, without full political integration, would end in disaster.

Hence why Europe is having political integration, to stabilise the economy.

[Furunculus]

did anyone ask the people if they wanted to become european, ah yes, there were some referendums on the question which i recall were lost in france, the netherlands and ireland, and nor did denmark or sweden even want the euro five years earlier.

if germany had a referendum today on lisbon do you think it would pass, not to mention britain!

and what is it the british electorate are continuously told, in the absence of a referendum; "don't be so silly, no-one is talking about federalism, this is just a few technocratic adjustments to make it easier for us to muddle along, phew, people are so excitable!"

which is it?

[Kagemusha]

two words for you:

join. nato.

And become a lapdog of US.Sorry but no thanks.

[PanzerJaeger]

And become a lapdog of US.Sorry but no thanks.

We're such a gentle master, though.

[Vladimir]

And become a lapdog of US.Sorry but no thanks.

Better than a Duchy of Russia.

The U.S. may be the strongest individual power but a Scandinavian and/or continental sub-group would hold considerable influence. At this point, NATO membership is far more beneficial than EU membership.

[Furunculus]

And become a lapdog of US.Sorry but no thanks.

lol, finlandisation is so much better!

[Fragony]

And become a lapdog of US.Sorry but no thanks.

Thx and thx, not going to forget what they did for us. Takes two hands two clean both.

[Kagemusha]

lol, finlandisation is so much better!

Well some of us actually think there are more options then just to become vassals of others and some others should understand that the cold war is over. I can understand the sentiment of some British that it is far better to be influenced by US then the stronger European countries like France or Germany. Those should work hard so Britain could be joined to US as another state.It would atleast protect the fragile pride of them, while they wouldnt have to bother how once great power has become so insignificant.

[Meneldil]

Down with their head I say. It's time the population stands up and invade the City.

The world will be a better place when the last banker will be hung with the last stock-trader's guts.

[Vladimir]

Down with their head I say. It's time the population stands up and invade the City.

The world will be a better place when the last banker will be hung with the last stock-trader's guts.

Hmm, this sounds somewhat familiar.

[Meneldil]

I think the first use of the sentence was by Diderot. Back then, he wrote "And with the bowels of the last priest, Let us strangle the last king."

The saying can be used for pretty much anything though. I thought it fitted the thread pretty well.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I love this quote from the telegraph:


Hence why Europe is having political integration, to stabilise the economy.

That's a pretty horrific attitude you've got there. It basically validates the claims made by the Daily Mail that the whole thing is a closet conspiracy to Federalise our nations out of existence.

[Beskar]

That's a pretty horrific attitude you've got there. It basically validates the claims made by the Daily Mail that the whole thing is a closet conspiracy to Federalise our nations out of existence.

I wish it was. Sooner the better.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Whyever would Finland want to join NATO or the EU? It is Finland that has it all.

[Fragony]

Has to be said that Finland IS awesome, these guys are born with a math degree, and you never had a good roast unless you've been there.

[Furunculus]

That's a pretty horrific attitude you've got there. It basically validates the claims made by the Daily Mail that the whole thing is a closet conspiracy to Federalise our nations out of existence.

haha, but remember, it was also Beskar that said this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2270642

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

haha, but remember, it was also Beskar that said this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2270642

Beskar is what is known as a "Utopian Atheist", freed from the strictures and comforts of religion he seeks to create a perfect society on Earth through the perfection of mankind. Worse, because he is the final arbiter of his decisions and believes there is no Higher Power he is his own moral judge, and will do what he believes is necessary to attain this goal. In Beskar's case this is ignoring democratic process and popular will.

[Fragony]

He is also pretty cool and more then capable to speak for himselve

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

He is also pretty cool and more then capable to speak for himselve

Then I think you should let him. If my analysis of his position is flawed I will be happy to be corrected.

[Meneldil]

haha, but remember, it was also Beskar that said this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2270642

Wow, the Thought Police hit again. Do you record what everybody says in this forum, or do you bother only when it comes to godless-internationalist-commie-scums?

[Furunculus]

who did the thought police hit last time?

nope, the only post not my own that i have bookmarked was JAG's election prediction, i just happened to remember this post seeing as it appeared relevant to PVC's comment, and it was easy enough to find as i knew it was at the top of a page in the ECR thread.

i don't really brand any group with hate, i leave that to the moralising poseurs on the left of politics who loath and despise thatcher. the most extreme emotion i can ever evoke even for godless-internationalist-commie-scum is benign contempt.

:)


p.s. i don't believe in 'god' either.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Wow, the Thought Police hit again. Do you record what everybody says in this forum, or do you bother only when it comes to godless-internationalist-commie-scums?

The "Thought Police" were Orwell's invention for his Godless-Utopian state.

Ahem.

Not believing in God is fine; not believing in God and as a result trying to create paradise on Earth through human effort is doomed to frustration, anger and dispair.

Hence, for example, the Terror in France.