I don't agree that the Ingaevones were a "Celtitc" grouping, and the Lugiones as far as I know while still up for debate the majority consider them "Germanic".Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Beginning with J.Caesar we have the known(to the Romans) "Celtic" peoples of Volcae Tectosages, Boii, and Helvetii living within the geographical area that by your definition should label them as Germani, yet they are not. These people still retain their "Celtic" ethnic tag, not the Germani one. One the other side we have the Germani cisrhenani and by using the geographical model they should be called Belgae, Gauls or something other then Germani, yet Caesar refers to them as Germani.
Moving on to Tacitus you have other tribes by the geographic model your using the Contini and Osi should be Germani, yet they are labled as non-Germanic. If the Ingaevones were "Celtic" as you claim, that really wouldn't have much bearing because Tacitus would have believed them to have the same language and culture as the rest of the Germani. He distinguishes those who do and those who don't.
But I believe in Tacitus these sentences go entirely against your geographic model:
Originally Posted by Tacitus-"Germania"
Now how can one claim that the Romans used the term Germani for geographical people when there is Caesar and Tacitus saying things that don't widely fit into this model. The Bastarnae aren't even near the region.Originally Posted by Tacitus-"Germania"
Tacitus talks of language and culture when classifying the Germani in the above quotes, not of geography. Caesar talks of geography at the beginning and then refines it more.Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Where can I read about this? Is your source Freibe?Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Bookmarks