Weaponary of Nusantara

**Nyz** · 05-22-2010, 15:20

The great sword is as tall as human... it is like Kurosaki Ichigo from Bleach Anime sword....

Well, I have to visit Military Museum in Port Dickson to take pictures of Malay Firearm... (an hour driving from my home)

**plutoboyz** · 05-22-2010, 15:23

Originally Posted by intifadanyz

The great sword is as tall as human... it is like Kurosaki Ichigo from Bleach Anime sword....

its Zangetsu when he visit Indonesia!

btw, when Sonic visit Museum Geologi, where the hell is Pajajaran related item??? I only see rocks and bones there. or is it Sri Baduga Museum?

**Cute Wolf** · 05-22-2010, 15:24

hmm... so? perhaps "pendekar" unit could be shared between Jawa and Sunda? (BTW, so I could change Jawara unit to carry something else than swords), because great 2 handed swords is common weapon in Jawa... or should I made jawara exact clone of Pendekar with 2 handed swords?

**plutoboyz** · 05-22-2010, 15:34

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

hmm... so? perhaps "pendekar" unit could be shared between Jawa and Sunda? (BTW, so I could change Jawara unit to carry something else than swords), because great 2 handed swords is common weapon in Jawa... or should I made jawara exact clone of Pendekar with 2 handed swords?

no, no. don't do that. that weapon is just "Pusaka" not used in battle. the one used in battle is smaller version. but its shaped like that.
is your "pendekar" used something like this?

**Cute Wolf** · 05-22-2010, 15:41

yupz, the great 2 handed keris... that one that Arya kamandanu and most pendekar in the movie use...

that was really historical reason behind it... someone that could use 1.5 m blade easily is someone that must be really respected...

**plutoboyz** · 05-22-2010, 15:49

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

yupz, the great 2 handed keris... that one that Arya kamandanu and most pendekar in the movie use...

that was really historical reason behind it... someone that could use 1.5 m blade easily is someone that must be really respected...

but someone using smaller keris far more respected.

**Cute Wolf** · 05-23-2010, 01:40

Remember, in field battle, pendekar (and another orang berilmu) often got frontal position, and tasked to break up enemy formations as shock troopers, and they did have gaint 2 handed keris at their disposal (carried at the back when they are goin in adventure / berkelana). Smaller blades are used as backup and ceremonial equipments.

**Cute Wolf** · 05-24-2010, 16:22

Just finished the battle balance tests, comparing gamegeek's advice (largely increase stabbing sword lethality and reducing damage, reducing mace lethality and increasing damage), with standard EB system, and Satalexton's advice (from our last chat how to portay romans as 'lings, but still give good challanges, give stabbing sword more damage, keep the lethality as before, let mace and axe as they are now, but consider heavy slashing blades to have higher lethality)... and compare with the actual desired result of battle.

1) gamegeek's advice : stabbing swords kill through lesser units easily (give them 0.17 lethality, reduce damage by 2), and mace have harder time to kill (reduce the lethality to 0.13, increase damage by two), I must admit that was pretty realistic... but that cause stabbing swords (which was not ap), to be somewhat less useful against higher level infantry, and more missed thrust of spears, that don't knock the enemy down. giving them lower damage also made them easily beaten by scimitars and longswords guy (who often had high defense).

2) satalexton's advice : keep the stabbing swords 0.145, but raise their damage by 4, keep mace as usual, and give heavy ap slashing blade the properties of mace (just more expensive)... the result is, the stabbing blades become muc more effective against high defense units, but not as good against low levy spams, the slashing blades now just as badass as axes, but that start to give some problem with cost balancement.....

anymore suggestions?