So, I am the only one thinking things are going downhill in Europe?

**Skullheadhq** · 05-24-2010, 19:18

Originally Posted by Fragony

Less money to leftist hobby's

Classical music concerts, museums, work of art, nature, festivals, libraries, public TV channels, developmet aid, charity subsidy and the list goes on and on. In short: everything that doesn't involve working your *** off. That would be nice, go with pension and then... find out there is nothing to do.

He's targeting pensiopners a lot. Is that his core support?

Pensioners are the ones who are most scared. He works with fear. Fear for muslims, fear for criminals, fear for eastern europeans (they might take jerbs) and fear for the EU, fear for almost everything that's not Dutch. So yes, Pensioners are a group he's targeting, and pensioners are a very great group in the Netherlands.

Besides, most pensioners are VERY traditionalistic. Just look at his new article one and his new proposed National History bias.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2010, 07:33

Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

Pensioners are the ones who are most scared. He works with fear. Fear for muslims, fear for criminals, fear for eastern europeans (they might take jerbs) and fear for the EU, fear for almost everything that's not Dutch.

Every time I read the word fear I want to claw eyeballs. Spreading fear is the grand tactic of the left when real issues are brought up. The fear is on the left, the fear of being wrong, and they will do anything to wrap the sum around the outcome. And now they scream 'no solutions' (which is odd as there are no problems) , yes solutions just not dream-proof solutions.

**Furunculus** · 05-25-2010, 08:17

fear certainly seems to be the driving force behind the euro.

fear that western liberalism will whither unless everyone corrals behind a big iron curtain.
fear that western social support will go the same way.
fear that western economic strength is ineluctably waning.

Britain has no need of this fear, it is debilitating, and will hinder the continued pursuit of all three of those things.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2010, 08:48

Fear certainly is the driving force of the hate-mongering against Wilders. It's even worse then it was with Fortuyn, thanks to the fearmongers the lemmings were running in circles shrieking the exact things as they do now. Even poor little Anne Frank had a day off from chimney. Well several. They see fascism everywhere but don't recognise it when they brush their teeth.

**Skullheadhq** · 05-25-2010, 15:29

@Fragony

How can you justify that Wilders wants a national bias in history? Isn't that a corruption of history? It isn't even history, it's indoctrination.

**Fragony** · 05-26-2010, 07:19

Spare me that, how can you consider the dutch educational system anything but.

**Ser Clegane** · 05-26-2010, 08:09

Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

@Fragony

How can you justify that Wilders wants a national bias in history? Isn't that a corruption of history? It isn't even history, it's indoctrination.

Just out of curiosity - what do you mean by "national bias"?

**Fragony** · 05-26-2010, 08:43

Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Just out of curiosity - what do you mean by "national bias"?

'Historical canon', ironically only makes us look worse. The Dutch Indonesian war wasn't pretty, about time I hate having to point out that we killed 150.000 Indonesians in the fifties. Our much beloved royal family is going to hate it.