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    Intelligent... Intellectual... Same thing, isn't it? I can see how you mix them up, it is quite easy to do for many people.

    You might however want to re-read what my initial answer was to.

    The question of Kim's intelligence is very unrelated to the internal intellectual uprising in the event of a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Intelligent... Intellectual... Same thing, isn't it?


    Kim's intelligence is very unrelated to the internal intellectual uprising
    Wait..are intelligence and intellectualism the same thing or are they unrelated?
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    That was below you dear Louis.

    To answer your question however, as is polite: Do we need two words for the exact same thing? I would assume not.

    However, as much as I like etymology, it has very little bearing on my point directed to Centurion1.

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    Intelligence and Intellectual are two completely different words with two completely different meanings.


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    With one more infraction for a ban (specially since one of the infractions I have no idea what the mod talked about, and he has not replied in a week), walking the knives edge of sarcasm is sometimes a trickery business.

    As a pure theoretical example: having a discussion with someone more proud of physical skills than intellectual (intelligent?) ones - without being overly insulting obviosly is not all that easy.

    But yes TinCow, I do very much agree that intellectual and intelligent would not be the same thing. But then, I just work as language teacher at university level, so my understanding is clearly limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    But then, I just work as language teacher at university level, so my understanding is clearly limited.
    Well in that case, you'll be perfectly aware of the definitions below:

    in·tel·li·gent (n-tl-jnt)
    adj.
    1. Having intelligence.
    2. Having a high degree of intelligence; mentally acute.
    3. Showing sound judgment and rationality: an intelligent decision; an intelligent solution to the problem.
    4. Appealing to the intellect; intellectual: a film with witty and intelligent dialogue.
    5. Computer Science Having certain data storage and processing capabilities: an intelligent terminal; intelligent peripherals.

    in·tel·lec·tu·al (ntl-kch-l)
    adj.
    1.
    a. Of or relating to the intellect.
    b. Rational rather than emotional.
    2. Appealing to or engaging the intellect: an intellectual book; an intellectual problem.
    3.
    a. Having or showing intellect, especially to a high degree. See Synonyms at intelligent.
    b. Given to activities or pursuits that require exercise of the intellect.

    n.
    An intellectual person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alh_p View Post
    Well in that case, you'll be perfectly aware of the definitions below:

    in·tel·li·gent (n-tl-jnt)
    adj.
    1. Having intelligence.
    2. Having a high degree of intelligence; mentally acute.
    3. Showing sound judgment and rationality: an intelligent decision; an intelligent solution to the problem.
    4. Appealing to the intellect; intellectual: a film with witty and intelligent dialogue.
    5. Computer Science Having certain data storage and processing capabilities: an intelligent terminal; intelligent peripherals.

    in·tel·lec·tu·al (ntl-kch-l)
    adj.
    1.
    a. Of or relating to the intellect.
    b. Rational rather than emotional.
    2. Appealing to or engaging the intellect: an intellectual book; an intellectual problem.
    3.
    a. Having or showing intellect, especially to a high degree. See Synonyms at intelligent.
    b. Given to activities or pursuits that require exercise of the intellect.

    n.
    An intellectual person.


    Edit:

    Perhaps Intelligentsia (n.) is a closer to intelectual (n.).
    I am indeed perfectly aware of it.

    sar·casm
    Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
    Date: 1550
    1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
    2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm



    See, I can do science too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Intelligent... Intellectual... Same thing, isn't it? I can see how you mix them up, it is quite easy to do for many people.
    Wait, now I get it. You meant they are not the same thing. For a minute there, I thought you said one thing in one post, and something else in another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Wait, now I get it. You meant they are not the same thing. For a minute there, I thought you said one thing in one post, and something else in another.
    Dear Louis, admit you only bothered to get it because my last post included "French sarcasme". A more than typical key word to raise your attention level, wouldn't it be?

    I love you anyway though, albeit not in that scary way SFTS does ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Dear Louis, admit you only bothered to get it because my last post included "French sarcasme". A more than typical key word to raise your attention level, wouldn't it be?

    I love you anyway though, albeit not in that scary way SFTS does ;)
    I bothered to get it because I always try to work out what somebody actually means. I'll read and re-read, put myself into somebody else's position, work out the intention, until I get it.

    I love myself too.


    If I may - I think your posts are too agressive of tone lately. You know I'm not part of 'dislike Kadagar by default' people. But are you, for example, treating Centurion with due respect in this thread?
    Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 05-27-2010 at 20:22.
    Anything unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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    I would be the voice of your conscience if you had one - Brenus
    Bt why woulf we uy lsn'y Staraft - Fragony
    Not everything
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