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    Default Re: OT: Anyone watch Sparticus - blood and sand?

    Most Greeks called Macedonians 'barbarians' because they had a weird accent, yet had the same culture and language. So even if the Dacians/Thracians would have the same language and culture as the Greeks, they'd probably still be called barbatians
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    Lightbulb Re: OT: Anyone watch Sparticus - blood and sand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mulceber View Post
    a very good point, Ludens - although what I was trying to say (I'm not sure I said it properly) is simply that since the Thracians weren't hellenized (or Romanized) they wouldn't use the term barbarian, because it's a phrase that, afaik, is pretty specific to those cultures. -M
    True. However, my (badly-made) point is that all cultures consider themselves either more civilized or more decent than their neighbours. The word barbarian may be a Greco-Roman thing, but the feeling is universal. And, obviously, Spartacus would have been considerably more Romanized than the average Thracian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Most Greeks called Macedonians 'barbarians' because they had a weird accent, yet had the same culture and language. So even if the Dacians/Thracians would have the same language and culture as the Greeks, they'd probably still be called barbatians
    It wasn't quite as black-and-white as you make out. The Macedonians were called semi-barbarous by anti-Macedonian Athenian rhetoricians. (Demosthenes, I know. Were there others?) His pro-Macedonian political rivals referred to the Macedonians as fellow Greeks.
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    Default Re: OT: Anyone watch Sparticus - blood and sand?

    True. However, my (badly-made) point is that all cultures consider themselves either more civilized or more decent than their neighbours. The word barbarian may be a Greco-Roman thing, but the feeling is universal. And, obviously, Spartacus would have been considerably more Romanized than the average Thracian.
    I agree completely. -M
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