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    Default Re: Next Total War game to be revealed at E3, will NOT focus on gunpowder era(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa View Post
    TW is a niche genre. It's not really RTS, certainly not FPS, nor is it RPG.


    Exactly, though this has been/is the case with all TW games, from Samurai through Knights, Legionaries, etc. We could argue the same for R2TW. CA would probably bring back the screeching women, arcani, flaming pigs, chanting druids and super legionaries - only this time around no one would be able to mod it...

    You forgot the Spartans with no armour whose shields did almost nothing and who had almost no defensive skill, but had millions of hitpoints. :P

    I don't think the games are targeted particularly at "high school students", more so the "casual gamer" (supposedly anyway). A sparta total war would actually be a good idea. A huge map encompassing as many cultures as possible does not necessarily equate to a better game. Sometimes less is more.


    I don't think the game(s) is really marketed at history buffs.

    Yeah, I do get what you and A Nerd are saying, but to me, making a game like Sparta Total War, or Shogun Total War would be like making a bi-op of Chuck Norris. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, there are ridiculous and inaccurate expectations that your fan base is going to have that will hurt the chances of your game/movie selling well. Therefore it is highly likely (as i say, esp considering CA's record) that rather than portray something at least somewhat accurately, they will give their fans what they expect. When the first Shogun was made there wasn't nearly as much an internet cult around ninjas and samurais and stuff as there is now (and I think that younger people were smarter then than the younger people now), so you had a much better chance of getting something real then.
    Like I say, I hope that I am wrong, but I am not gonna bet a lot on it. I am really not that into Japanese history, but if I hear that they did a good job on it, and (most importantly) it is moddable, I will buy it. If it is not moddable though, or if they have battlefield units of ninjas, I am definitely not going to. :P
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    You forgot the Spartans with no armour whose shields did almost nothing and who had almost no defensive skill, but had millions of hitpoints. :P
    I also forgot to mention the armour piercing head throwers.

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    If it is not moddable though, or if they have battlefield units of ninjas, I am definitely not going to. :P
    Then I doubt you'll be buying it. The CA seem to be moving away from "modability" and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there. I hope not, but knowing CA, well... no doubt we shall see.
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    Default Re: Next Total War game to be revealed at E3, will NOT focus on gunpowder era(s)

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    I also forgot to mention the armour piercing head throwers.

    lol, yeah. They were always the first thing that I modded out.

    Then I doubt you'll be buying it. The CA seem to be moving away from "modability" and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there. I hope not, but knowing CA, well... no doubt we shall see.
    Yeah, I probably won't. I don't mind the fantasy units so much, as long as I can mod them into oblivion , but I refuse to support another Total War game without modding tools. I hope that others will too. The moddability of Total War games is what always has given them such value. You take that away and they are not worth the money that you spend on them.
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    The key word here is moddablity, if CA cares about the older gamers, it will be included. If not, and they are merely addressing this newer, younger crowd with all the before mentioned dislikes (fantasy, ahistoricality, etc), then they don't and it is up to the consumer to decide whether he will support CA or not. Unfortunately, the purists seem to be in the minority.

    and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there
    I actually liked these units. I hope the Kensai is included, though I could do without the BNs. Just need some balancing issues to be resolved. An RPG diaymo and/or kensai...oooooh *salivating*!
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