How Will Allowing Gays to Openly Serve Effect Combat Readiness?

[HoreTore]

If this is true than British soldiers have lost part of their humanity.

I belive it has more to do with male service members coming to appreciate the value a woman can add to a team...and the sex, of course.

Why on earth should I as a male have a need to protect women? I have a need to protect children, yes, but that's because children are inferior to me, an adult. Women, however, are far from inferior and in no need of special protection.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Why on earth should I as a male have a need to protect women? I have a need to protect children, yes, but that's because children are inferior to me, an adult. Women, however, are far from inferior and in no need of special protection.

Surely women are physically less well suited to a combat environment on the whole than men? And I expect they are less well emotionally suited as well. This isn't mysoginist trolling, the psychological differences between men and women are raised even by feminists, who complain that things like politics have been too dominated by a male-mindset, hence realism etc. Women tend to have more of a caring attitude, whereas men see things more in terms of duty and contracts etc.

This may be due to social rather than biological factors (though I doubt it is solely), but it is still nonetheless relevant.

[HoreTore]

Surely women are physically less well suited to a combat environment on the whole than men? And I expect they are less well emotionally suited as well.

If your sister/mother/girlfriend is a weak little baby then fine. But the thousands of female combat veterans from around the world proves you wrong.

[Rhyfelwyr]

If your sister/mother/girlfriend is a weak little baby then fine. But the thousands of female combat veterans from around the world proves you wrong.

tbh, I cannot think of one girl from my class at school that would have been likely to do well in a combat environment. But then again this isn't Scandinavia where women chew tobacco and act in a most unseemly manner. *snob*

[Furunculus]

Surely women are physically less well suited to a combat environment on the whole than men? And I expect they are less well emotionally suited as well. This isn't mysoginist trolling, the psychological differences between men and women are raised even by feminists, who complain that things like politics have been too dominated by a male-mindset, hence realism etc. Women tend to have more of a caring attitude, whereas men see things more in terms of duty and contracts etc.

This may be due to social rather than biological factors (though I doubt it is solely), but it is still nonetheless relevant.

this is true in general, if not in particular, given that militaries have training standards that must be conformed to, so while you would expect less woman to end up as infantry those that do make it should be capable of equally arduous activity.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

this is true in general, if not in particular, given that militaries have training standards that must be conformed to, so while you would expect less woman to end up as infantry those that do make it should be capable of equally arduous activity.

But the ones who CAN hack it should get the shot. Moreover, there are scads of combat slots where the inability to make pickup on a buddy is largely irrelevant (most aircrew, MBT crew [okay, loader is unlikely], etc.).

That was NOT true in Starship Troopers (LOVE that book) by the way, Heinlein's MI was an all guy outfit and, therefore, so were all of the supreme command cadre since they had to have both commanded a ship AND a regiment to get selected for that command billet.

Integration is, long-term, the only viable answer. Rules will have to be set that prevent the inevitable fornication from interfering with duty/readiness and enforced harshly at first, but the transition can be made.

[Furunculus]

But the ones who CAN hack it should get the shot. Moreover, there are scads of combat slots where the inability to make pickup on a buddy is largely irrelevant (most aircrew, MBT crew [okay, loader is unlikely], etc.).

That was NOT true in Starship Troopers (LOVE that book) by the way, Heinlein's MI was an all guy outfit and, therefore, so were all of the supreme command cadre since they had to have both commanded a ship AND a regiment to get selected for that command billet.

agreed.

i am only thinking of the shower scene from the film.........

[Seamus Fermanagh]

agreed.

i am only thinking of the shower scene from the film.........

I loathed the depiction of the arachnids in the film, I mean, they were a space-faring race in the book with satrapies among other species and all we get is a screaming bug with no weaponry and less tactical sense than the creature in Alien? Sheesh....

On the other hand, as I have the same "infantile bias" Lars sometimes displays in the babe thread, I would have to note that video of athletically-built women covered largely in soap suds was not a bothersome addition.....