EBNOM official discussion thread

[gamegeek2]

Are we decided on 80 BC?

[anubis88]

Are we decided on 80 BC?

I dunno. I'm for it... We should probably see what other people think? People who would help us do this... 80 BC seems very interesting... It could really kick-ass if we made things right....
I can't wait to see the list of my FM's including;
-Gaius Julius Caesar
-Gnaius Pompeius Magnus
-Lucius Licinius Lucullus
-Marcus Licinius Crassus
- Marcus Tullius Cicero
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- We could even squeeze in Marcus Porcius Cato
and of course Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix as the Dictator

The major points of the campaign should be;
- An extremly powerful Rome, yet the power is more in the hands of warlords than an centralized state (waiting for an Augustus to set things right)
- war against Sertorius and hispanic tribes that are allied with him
- end of the 2nd Mithridatic war, with Mithridates just showing that he CAN beat the Romans if they underestimate him
- the great rise of power of Tigranes the Great
- Parthia at one of her top peaks
- Indo-Saka becoming a regional superpower
- The invasion of Gaul waiting to happen
- ...

We could start posting the names of the people interested for doing this, then a list of factions that would definetly be in, + other which we could talk about:

[gamegeek2]

Indo-Saka are just getting started right now, IIRC.

Sertorius can be represented by rebels, no?

[anubis88]

Well the Eastern part of the map after the fall of the Seleucid Empire isn't my speciality, but i was under the impression that the Saka's were already strong at this time.
Why I think Sertorius should have his own faction:
Quintus Sertorius managed to make a country for himself in Spain. After he fled from Rome, he fled first in Spain, then in Africa, and back in Spain (IIRC). The people of Iberia, especially the Lusitanias, pledged their full allegiance to him, if he were to liberate them.
The Sertorian state in Spain became a refuge for Romans, who didn't see either eye with the current powers in the City. He also established his own senate, and trained Hispanic troops to fight as Romans, but they weren't as versatile and effective as the "pure" roman troops in his armies.

He made Osca his capital, and minted his own coins; he also built schools to edjucate the Hispanians in Latin and Roman ways. Quintus Sertorius was never defeated in battle. His enemies were 2 great generals, Metellus and Pompey, yet they never defeated him. Pompey was one of the all-time Roman greats, and if he couldn't defeat Sertorius, that means that a less competent general would probably fail completly, and i doubt Rome would be able to launch another assault on Spain, especially since the Spartacus rebellion began, and Mithridates renewed his hostility.

And the last argument for now, Sertorius was invited back to Rome, once Sulla was dead. But he refused. He was content with trying to create a country of his own, far away from the political turmoils of Rome.


As i said, I believe that he deserves a faction. He held Pompey at bay. Pompey steamrolled through asia. (lucullus helped a lot, but still).

If he would be represented by rebels, that's fine. They would have to be uber strong though :).
I just wanted to keep this open for debate.

As i said, we could make them rebells, but having a 2nd Roman faction could be very interesting

[gamegeek2]

Great idea. Now who gets shafted? Axum or Meroe I think...

[anubis88]

I'm glad you like it... I did quite a bit of research on him, since i found him grossely underestimated in Roman history...

Your probably right, Axum will perhaps be the one to be removed in such a case... Perhaps it wouldn't hurt if we had a faction on the British isles? Surely we could use much more from the roman sources than in 272 BC? Also the new Prittanoi of EBII have a huge amount of interesting info, especially on the military...

So we are gonna do this right? I would love to do such a thing... It would kick ass... The first release could be made prety soon IMHO... Quite a few factions could have their rosters similar as in the 272 BC EB;
-SPQR
-Armenia
-Parthia
-Pontus
-Dacia
-Arverni
-German tribes...
-Haedui
-Sarmatians
-Indo-Saka
-Indo-Greeks
-Saba (hymarites?)

Oh and BTW, did you mention the Cantabri? They could make an interesting faction in Iberia...

[Cute Wolf]

remember the 20 factions limit....
ah yes, so there will be more cuties in Iberia I think, and we can reduce one in greece....