So, we need more gay people to have kids...

[Kadagar_AV]

Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla, No matter the fun it would bring me, I will leave the religious debate aside. Sorry for bringing it up..

As to your second point... Let's skip the "who is BETTER" point altogether, shall we? And focus on my main point, that gays are valid parents.

I think some people got stuck on "who is best", and lost the main point...

Are you arguing that gays are not valid? Or are you not? With the research at hand

[Megas Methuselah]

I don't mind gay people adopting kids (no more than other couples), provided said kids have access to their culture of birth.

Otherwise, it's genocide.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla, No matter the fun it would bring me, I will leave the religious debate aside. Sorry for bringing it up..

I doubt you would derive anything other than brief enjoyment out of debating religion with me, I'm really a very boring and technical theologian.

As to your second point... Let's skip the "who is BETTER" point altogether, shall we? And focus on my main point, that gays are valid parents.

I think some people got stuck on "who is best", and lost the main point...

Are you arguing that gays are not valid? Or are you not? With the research at hand

Well, all you've really demonstrated is that well prepared homosexual parents are better than unprepared heterosexual ones, which is why I countered with well prepared heterosexual parents. The problem with your point, in my view, is that it lies in a lack of care/sexuality morality/whatever you want to call it, on the part of heterosexuals in their sexual activity. As it is not possible for homosexcuals to accidently concience, expect with large amounts of alchohol, this is never a problem for them.

So I can use your data to push an ultra-conservative agenda in which we burn the promiscuous at the stake for everyone's benefit.

If you want me to say homosexuals don't make bad parents, yes ok, and? At the end of the day that doesn't argue for well prepared and adjusted homosexual couples being as good as well prepared and adjusted heterosexual ones, because no one will dare do the research.

We can't leave aside the "better" part of the argument because that is the crux of the issue. What is best for our children?

It should really be the driving force behind our society, and sadly often isn't.